Sunday, December 03, 2006

Campaign 2008: Bayh Will Consider Presidential Run; Daschle Won't

Can someone explain to me why Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) is considering a presidential run?

The only logical reason was the one offered by the South Bend Tribune: Bayh is a "Democrat with a record of political success in a Republican-leaning state."

But honestly, Bayh's name recognition on the national stage is only modestly better than Richard Burr or Tom Casper (go ahead, name the states and parties without checking.)

Yes, sometimes candidates come out of nowhere. In 1991, few people would have given Gov. Bill Clinton much of a chance. Gov. Jimmy Carter was a blip on the national political scene when he started his run for the White House in 1975.

Bayh will test the waters, the Tribune reports, creating an exploratory committee, and visiting Iowa and New Hampshire. But I'll go on the record now as saying the odds of a President Bayh come 2008 are perhaps as bad as a President Dodd, although he's testing the waters, too.

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One piece of good news for the Democrats: Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) will not run for president in 2008.

Daschle couldn't handle the debating skills of Rep. John Thune in 2004. And his reason for not running this time was apparently fear of the steamroller that is Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack.

If he didn't want to spar with Vilsack, how would he ever have defended himself against all the Karl Rove/Ken Mehlman wannabes?

18 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well at least he has been in politcal office longer that Obama. But then again 1 year in the Senate and you libs think he is presidential material.

9:13 AM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

"you libs think he is presidential material."

Which liberals are you referring to? The liberals on JABBS? The liberals in the Democratic Party?

Or are you just speaking out of your rear?

10:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does bayh have a legit chance? i don't think so.

2:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does bayh have a legit chance? i don't think so.

2:30 PM  
Anonymous MookieWilson said...

Yes, I think he does. He's a pretty good guy.

2:30 PM  
Anonymous SaveElmer said...

1975...Did Jimmy Carter have a chance...

Of course Bayh has a chance...if he connects with folks he definitely has a chance...

He has alot to offer, and if he is able to get his message across in a way that is appealing to folks, he will do well!

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Warpy said...

Party conservatives love him and he's a whisker better than either Nelson. That's like saying a brain tumor is better than a leaking aneurysm because it kills you slower.

He's too conservative to energize much of anyone and we already know no "moderate" GOPpie is going to cross party lines to vote for a Conservative Democrat no matter what horror their own party produces. Look at their votes for Stupid, the worst president in history.

2:31 PM  
Anonymous skipos said...

Maybe you are right, but I don't think so

Moderate GOPs voted for Clinton in 1992 and 1996. They didn't vote for Kerry in 2004 because Kerry was so easy to define as a New England millionaire Ted Kennedy liberal. Bayh isn't my pick in 08, and the GOP will certainly try to slime him, but they aren't going to be successful making him out to be some "scary librul."

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Warpy said...

GOPs did NOT vote for Clinton

After Poppy's disastrous 4 years, they voted Reform. That split the GOP vote and Clinton got in.

If you've learned nothing else over the last 37 years, learn this one thing: GOPs do NOT cross party lines no matter how horrific their candidate is. They may vote for a right wing alternative in a splinter party, but they will NEVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT.

That is all.

2:32 PM  
Anonymous Kelly Rupert said...

It's swing and independent voters we need to capture. Neither party's base will cross party lines (though they might stay home) and neither party can win with just the base.

2:32 PM  
Anonymous skipos said...

1996 exit polls do not back your claim up

From exit polls:
80% of Repubs voted for Dole, 13% for Clinton, 6% for Perot
33% of moderates voted for Dole, 57% for Clinton, 9% for Perot
That is much better than Gore's performance and Kerry's performance in those groups.

From wikipedia:
However, exit polling indicated that Perot voters would have split their votes fairly evenly among Clinton and Bush had Perot not been in the race, and an analysis by FairVote - Center for Voting and Democracy suggested that, while Bush would have won more electoral votes with Perot out of the race, he would not have gained enough to reverse Clinton's victory.<

2:32 PM  
Anonymous Hoosier Dem said...

From Indiana...
Let me tell you that I WILL NOT be supporting a Bayh presidential candidacy. This guy has made a carerr out of riding the fence and playing the middle. He can do this here in right-wing Indiana, but I don't think it will play well in New Hampshire.

Bayh has been very pro-union, but has avoided taking any strong stance on reproductive rights and gay rights. He supported the Patriot Act as well as the Iraq War.

Maybe he couldname LIEberman as his running mate and we could just sell out the WHOLE PARTY!

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Hoosier Dan said...

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2:33 PM  
Anonymous Hoosier Dem said...

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2:33 PM  
Anonymous NYCGirl said...

I know Bill Clinton. Bayh is no Bill Clinton.

2:34 PM  
Anonymous Kelly Rupert said...

I really wish that Warner hadn't dropped out.

I think he was a surefire winner. I agree that Bayh isn't nearly ideal.

2:35 PM  
Anonymous cali said...

Of course he has a chance.
I doubt I'd support him in the primaries but I'd support him if he's the nominee. He's also not nearly as bad as some on this thread contend: He has a 95 rating from the ADA, and he voted against both Roberts and Alito.

2:35 PM  
Anonymous wyldwolf said...

of course he has a chance
1975 - Jimmy who?
1992 - Bill who?

Considering the current political climate, and if he runs a smart campaign, he definitely has a shot.

2:35 PM  

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