Wednesday, November 01, 2006

Kerry Was Wrong, But Response From Bush, Radio Ranters Was Plenty Wrong, Too

John Kerry was wrong.

His series of jokes at the president's expense, including one that suggested those unable to navigate the country's education system "get stuck in Iraq," were ill-timed and unnecessary.

On the eve of an election -- in which Kerry's seat is not in play -- the junior Senator from Massachusetts gave the media, the conservative media and the White House a day to talk about nothing but his stupid comments. He gave the Republicans a chance for one day, and probably more, to talk about something other than the Iraq War, that Osama Bin Laden is still at large, the Mark Foley scandal, or any number of other more pressing issues.

To use sports parlance, you never give your opponent four or five outs in an inning as a result of your mistakes. With the Democrats leading in the 9th inning, Kerry just booted the ball, big-time, and gave the Republicans an extra chance to catch up.

But Kerry's stupidity doesn't excuse the response from the right. President Bush and his friends in the conservative media know full well that Kerry wasn't suggesting the troops were stupid. Yet that was the punchline that the President delivered, and the conservative media echoed, throughout the day.

"The members of the United States military are plenty smart and they are plenty brave and the senator from Massachusetts owes them an apology," Bush said during a Georgia appearance for a former GOP congressman, Mac Collins, who is trying to oust Democratic Rep. Jim Marshall.

You could almost hear Karl Rove and Ken Mehlman salivating. Finally, someone had given them a chance to pretend it was 2004 all over again.

For a whole news cycle, the talk could be about whether Kerry abandoned the troops during the Vietnam War, when he spoke out at a Congressional hearing. For a whole news cycle, the conservative media could pick apart every statement Kerry has made over the past three years, and turn it into an attack on the troops. For a whole news cycle, the conservative media could find every Republican who decided to take the party line and say that Kerry was calling the troops dumb. It even gave the conservative media a whole news cycle to point out that Bush got better grades than Kerry at Yale -- the supposed point of Kerry's botched joke.

Two wrongs don't make a right. But there's an election at stake, and as former President Clinton recently said, politics is a contact sport.

46 Comments:

Blogger thewaronterrible said...

So, in other words, Kerry's gaffe will give the Republicans yet another chance to distort Kerry's record.
As I stated in other post, I don't think this situation will motivate anyone at the polls but the fringe right, who are unshakable anyway.
Let Limbaugh and his ilk belly ache all they want. If they didn't have Kerry to belch about, they would create other Democratic targets anyway.

9:16 AM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

The only good thing about this is the roles are finally reversed. For years us Dems have been doing the whole "Waaah, apologize" to GOPers who make crude and sick remark after remark implying that millions of citizens are de facto terrorists, appeasers and traitors for not supporting the misguided policies of Chimpy McSmirk-a-lot. But Kerry this time instead socked them in the mouth and told 'em to go f*** themselves. Good. That's what you have to do with bullies. It's way past time any gross, horrific statement by a GOPer is taken as a legitimate line of discussion when it should be condemned, so screw them and the horse they rode in on. What's worse, Kerry's dumb joke, or Bush's handling of our military?

9:50 AM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

I think the masses will see it exactly as dave g. describes it, rather than the White House spin.
For better news: The very latest of multiple polls for each of the states show Dems having moved ahead (usually outside of the margin of error) in all of the "toss-up" states, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey and Virginia, with the only exception being blood red Tennessee where Ford has been struggling to overtake Corker.
Factor in the states already leaning Democratic and the Senate is clearly within the Dems' grasp.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2006/senate/mo/missouri_senate_race-12.html

10:05 AM  
Anonymous Smiling Gen. Patton said...

You pinkos can spin it anyway you want. Kerry's Freudian slip showed his true colors and dare I say they're an even brighter shade of red than they were when he got his ass handed to him in 2004. Can't say I'm shocked. This D-Bag has been shitting on our Boys since he came back from his three-week tour of Vietnam. But hell, maybe if America is lucky this SOB might have ruined the chances of his God-hating party taking control of the House. Thanks for the SNAFU, Pinko.

11:39 AM  
Anonymous Cromwell said...

Kerry meant it.

Words mean something. I'm a Vietnam veteran and Kerry defiled my service to my country and millions of other guys and gals.

The US military is the best trained and disciplined in the world. Overall better educated than grade D college student Kerry.

No education is required to malign brave American heroes who protect Kerry and the rest of us from our enemies, and Kerry proved it.

12:21 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

keep dreaming, you asses. while you're getting your panties in a bunch over comments by John Kerry, the military is being ground into the sand bogged down in Iraq, without adequate equipment and no plan for victory from this douche of a president we have. So yes, go cry and wail about john kerry saying something stupid, and never mind the disaster created by our idiot president. Best of luck.

12:40 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

Patton and Cromwell just demonstrated they are completely ignorant of the full story of Kerry's remark told in the mainstream press, and that they have only have paid attention to the biased, non-objective, and untruthful right wing spin.
They are the only ones who are guilty of spinning.
We have more blind, deaf and dumb Bushie/Limbaugh/Levin sheep.
If the right-wing drones and puppets said that the color white is actually the color black, Cromwell and Patton would believe them.

12:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The full story is Kerry has no regard for the military. To paraphrase another stalinist leftist, he loathes the military. He has shot his mouth off far to many time and now it is biting him in the ass. He doesnt even have the balls to show up to schuled events because he knows he is wrong, but wont say he is sorry. This is not about being a right wing puppet. Its about being an upstanding human being. Something you donks know nothing about.

1:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few our our brave soldiers you libs hate so much.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1730059/posts

1:14 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

Anonymous do I have to spell it out?
The full, substantiated story is that Kerry was not talking about the military at all.
Rather he was talking about Bush IN CONTEXT as part of a series of jokes on the failure-in-chief.
The text of Kerry's DOCUMENTED PREPARED speech read: "Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush."
All the facts show Kerry misread a line in his prepared speech and was meant as a quip at Bush not at the military.
None of Kerry's other past actions could be interpreted objectively as demonstrating a hatred of the military.
Turn off Rush and Levin for a moment, would you?

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patton said:
"Kerry's Freudian slip"
Patton thinks he is a psychologist, and that he can perform summary psychiatric evaluations on people he watches on the television.
Didn't JABBS have a post the other day about Repukes who think they can make medical diagnosis on people over the television?
Kerry is just a wishful strawman for these Repukes.

2:10 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

For such a bunch of tough guys, they really get all pissy over one botched, stupid statement by a guy not even running this year. Meanwhile, 2800 of our boys are dead in Iraq and we just abandoned the search for one in Baghdad on a political say-so. Heckuva job.

2:40 PM  
Anonymous Snoop said...

All I have to say on this is thank you John Kerry. Tho I don’t have a crystal ball, I believe the GOP will survive next week.
But in any case, I get an absolute kick out of the media and the few liberal blogs willing to post anything in addition to you folks here and seeing and reading y’all try to explain away what idiot Kerry said, squirming and scattering like a bunch of rats.
I don’t care what anyone says, this is why find politics particularly Democrats entertaining, as long as you are not in power. LOL!

Peace Snoop

2:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A botched stupid statement? I dont think so. He said was is in his heart and mind. He spoke how he truly feels. Just like in the 70's when he betrayed his fellow soldiers. His big mouth helped the Republicans and hurt the Demwits.

I'm John "D Student" Kerry and Im a schmuck.

3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No he wasnt talking about the military at all right TWOT. Who was he speaking about in Iraq? Sean Penn?

3:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No he wasnt talking about the military at all right TWOT. Who was he speaking about in Iraq? Sean Penn?

3:35 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

We'll see, anonymous. But if everybody is indeed as stupid as you, and willing to change their vote because of a dumb comment by Kerry as opposed to a disaster of a policy by Bush, well, then we deserve this POS government we have already. But the GOP is desperate now to say anything at all to divert attention from their failure, which isn't easy, because it's all over the place.

3:37 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

Anonymous said:
"No he wasnt talking about the military at all right TWOT. Who was he speaking about in Iraq? Sean Penn?"
Boy, are you dumb.
Anonymous, you have a massive reading comprehension problem.
Reread my post seven posts up.
DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU A SECOND TIME. THE FACTS SHOW KERRY WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MILITARY. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT BUSH!

3:53 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

To the unthinking Republicans hopelessly spun by a right-wing nonsense that Kerry somehow betrayed our military upon returning home from Vietnam in the 1970s.

Kerry told the truth of what went on in Vietnam, collaborated by mounds of additional eye witness accounts and documentation.
His testimony was influentialin ending the failed Vietnam War, and saving the lives of tens of thousands of additional U.S. soldiers.

Please explain to me. Why is what Kerry did a betrayal to the U.S. military? I am really curious as to why Republicans would think that.


Republicans would have him lied about his well-collaborated experiences in Vietnam in a move to somehow preserve the soldiers' honor and to continue the Vietnam War.

That is why it is so imperative to chase these Repukes out of power next week. Like Vietnam, the Republicans would have us fighting in Iraq until most every last U.S. soldier stationed there was either killed or badly maimed.

4:17 PM  
Anonymous MrToffeeLovesYa said...

For perhaps the first time, the liberals running this blog finally seem to get it.

The Kerry "botched joke," intentional or unintentional, may blow over in a couple of days, although conservatives are plenty angry, and that anger has been conveyed to the troops, and the troops -- past and present -- have responded with their own plenty anger. They're calling Rush and Sean and Mark and Michael and expressing that plenty anger. Clearly, they aren't calling Al and Randy quite as much. Pow!

Wake up and smell the reality, liberals. It doesn't matter whether Kerry was right or wrong. Whether he meant to insult Bush only or not. Following what Mr. Mark wrote, let me add this sports parlance: The Democrats should be running out the clock. They should be smiling and saying all the right things -- right, extremely vague and pleasing to the ear things -- and nothing more.

What liberal America won't admit is that Kerry is a yahoo who didn't seem to understand that gameplan. With a minute on the clock and nursing a one-point lead, Quarterback Kerry decided he wanted to throw a Hail Mary. And now that ball has been intercepted. And now the conservatives are cheering on the sidelines once again, led by Bush. And worse for liberals, the troops have been given plenty reason to hate Democrats, and reconsider whether they should be put back in charge.

Kerry has his own demons, which conservatives resurrect every time he sticks his foot in his mouth. Conservatives didn't like Kerry's Congressional appearance 35 years ago, and they successfully took his strongest suit away from him in 2004. Whether they were fair or not doesn't really matter -- they convinced enough Americans that Kerry was trashing the troops. Perception matters more than reality in politics. Kerry, being a D student at Yale, realized this about six months ago, and now he's shouting fighting words at Bush.

C'mon liberals, fess up. If the Democrats somehow blow perhaps the best opportunity ever to retake the House and Senate, Kerry should, to use sports parlance, never be allowed to suit up for the big game again. Bam!

4:22 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

Well, well John Kerry screwed up a statement. No one is going to die, lose money, lose sleep, lose a job, lose a war,be confused about their vote or lose their mind because of the statement except maybe some repukes,but they can not lose their mind because they have already lost it.

What is a fact is about 58% of the troops today come from a poor background,25% from the middle class and 17% from the upper middle class. The poor 58% are not dumb but rather mostly un-educated. I do know that there are some smart people that simply do not go beyond high school. Most everyone knows that a highly educated soldier makes for a better military( as an aside - it makes a smarter voter as well). Most people know that very few highly educated people enlist in the military( the current terribly low enlistment numbers bear this out); most of the highly educated are the officers that went thru an ROTC program in college or one of the military acadamies or they are lawyers or doctors serving.

My question to the repukes is: When are you guys and gals going to enlist in sufficient numbers in the military to show your boastfull support for the military and the war in Iraq?? Think how much easier it would be on the current troops and the aid to the "war on terror" you repukes could accomplish by backing up your boastfull rhetoric.

I know that I am going to hear that you repukes have good reasons for not enlisting and the #1 reason is you have back problems - A BIG YELLOW STREAK DOWN THE MIDDLE!!

4:26 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

The Democrats should be running out the clock. They should be smiling and saying all the right things -- right, extremely vague and pleasing to the ear things -- and nothing more. What liberal America won't admit is that Kerry is a yahoo who didn't seem to understand that gameplan.

Actually, Mr. TOffee, we understand that all too well. It was a dumbass thing to say by an idiot who should go away. But still -- if you're telling me now the collective public is going to run back to the GOP as a result of this statement despite six years of ridiculous failed policies, well, then the public deserves this shit-ass government in all its glory. Kerry said something stupid, Bush f*cked up the entire country.

5:10 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

The question is: why are the Republicans so upset over something Kerry never said when the statement is put in its proper substantiated context and meaning?
Why are they needlessly extending that anger to the U.S. military members?
This discussion is going in circles, but it all goes back to the Republicans desparately seeking an issue -- even when they have to invent one -- for political purposes in an election season. That's the bottom line.
The other bloggers here are right and the Republicans should instead focus their energies on the Administration that got us into this Iraq mess in the first place that is what is really hurting the troops.
Besides, what Kerry said could never be as harmful to Bush. as the false statements Republicans and Bush have tagged onto the Dems: "weak on terror, cut and run, raise taxes," etc.
And as long as we have idiots who think like Toffee, we can kiss goodbye the chance of ever achieving a non-partison united goal in more honest and truthful political campaign debates.

6:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey TWOT
I can read just fine and I dont need any help from you. Please point out for me where Kerry says Bush in this quote.

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

I dont see Bush mentioned, but then again I am a lot smarter than you and Davey G String. You cant put words into another mans quote.

See ya all next Tuesday when real human beings still control the government. Oh and you dipshits vote on Wednesday. Keep up the name calling because with a ep brain that is all you are capable of.

Hakuna Makaka Demwits

6:54 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

Hey anonymous:
You still lack reading and comprehension skills.
I never said Kerry's actual physical quote was inaccurate.
My argument above instead was that Kerry both misspoke and was misinterpreted when looking at the prepared text of his speech as well as the statement in the context of a series of jokes about Bush, not the military.
Fact: you can make most any statement say most anything you want by repeating it out of context.
Kerry is guilty of making a comment prone to misinterpretations from desperate Republicans like yourself seeking any excuse to gain leverage in the election.
Got it now. Maybe you need to pound a hammer into your head to knock some sense in.
As for your confidence next Tuesday, perhaps you also failed to comprehend my post above reflecting the most recent polls showing the Dems ahead of Repukes in all but one of the so-called toss-up states that will decide the outcome of the Senate race.

7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is this? No demand from the hypocrite Republicans for an apology from John Boehner for his statements today blaming the mess in Iraq on the Generals?
From CNN 11/01/06:

"House Majority Leader John Boehner: Wolf, I understand that, but let's not blame what's happening in Iraq on Rumsfeld.

Wolf Blitzer: But he's in charge of the military.

House Majority Leader John Boehner: But the fact is the generals on the ground are in charge and he works closely with them and the president."

I wonder if this will a quarter of the media attention as Kerry's botched joke.

8:12 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

I wonder if this will a quarter of the media attention as Kerry's botched joke.

Or Chimpy's statement that voting for the Democrats is voting for terrorists, thus glorifying bin Laden again. Bush is bin Laden's greatest recruitment poster. Or everything else this sorry excuse for a president should apologize for.

8:52 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Dave G. said...
"For such a bunch of tough guys, they really get all pissy over one botched, stupid statement by a guy not even running this year.


LOL Dave G. Now apply that to Rush Limbaugh's comment, and if and when that little light bulb in your brain finally illuminates, you can then smack yourself upside the head. ;)

We are now in the second week of the Limbaugh/Fox non-story, and not only isn't Rush running this year, he's not even a politician.

10:04 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

whoop4467 said...
"What is a fact is about 58% of the troops today come from a poor background,25% from the middle class and 17% from the upper middle class. The poor 58% are not dumb but rather mostly un-educated."


The Heritage Foundation did a study last November that doesn't seem to jibe with your stats, Whoop. Do you have a source for your figures?

"We found that recruits tend to come from mid­dle-class areas, with disproportionately fewer from low-income areas. Overall, the income dis­tribution of military enlistees is more similar to than different from the income distribution of the general population...

...This paper reviews the demographic status of the all-volunteer military and refutes the claim that enlisted troops are underprivileged and come from underprivileged areas. In terms of education, household income, race, and home origin, the troops are more similar than dissimilar to the gen­eral population.

Put simply, the current makeup of the all-vol­untary military looks like America. Where they are different, the data show that the average sol­dier is slightly better educated and comes from a slightly wealthier, more rural area. We found that the military (and Army specifically) included a higher proportion of blacks and lower propor­tions of other minorities but a proportionate num­ber of whites. More important, we found that recruiting was not drawing disproportionately from racially concentrated areas.

Perhaps more could be done to dismantle the claim that an all-volunteer military relies dispro­portionately on ignorant, black, poor, urban young citizens in America, but the evidence already clearly shows this claim to be hollow."

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/cda05-08.cfm

10:22 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

LOL Dave G. Now apply that to Rush Limbaugh's comment, and if and when that little light bulb in your brain finally illuminates, you can then smack yourself upside the head. ;)

We are now in the second week of the Limbaugh/Fox non-story, and not only isn't Rush running this year, he's not even a politician.


A few thoughts.

1. I agree that this story has run its course. However, the furor over it has calmed down significantly...it's not running at full boil anymore, so your statement on "second week," well, doesn't quite jibe.

2. This does not change the fact that Rush is an asshole, and he belittled a guy with Parkinson's because he's an asshole. Which is what made it a story in the first place, not a non-story. It's not about whether "Rush will tip the elections" or some such, but "Isn't Rush a dipshit?"

I'm done smacking myself in the head. NOw, take a whiffle bat to your own noggin a bit, and then we can talk some more later. ;)

11:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TWOT,
There is no misinterpretation at all. If you cant grasp what he said you are a schmuck. He never mentioned Bush. He mentioned the troops. He has a 3 decade record of bashing the troops and he is still at it today. He is a disgrace and should be banished from serving in public office. Believe what you want and continue to stick up for a traitor. You and your ilk love doing that. You libtards make me sick.

7:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH and TWOT, Republicans dont need to create another Democrat target. You assholes do that all on your own with your big mouths. Don Imus even told Kerry to shut up. The DNC wanted no part of him. Keep blaming Republicans for your parties mistake. That is the liberal way.

8:10 AM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

"Three decade record of bashing the troops." You have failed to take on my challenge above to explain why you consider Kerry to have bashed the troops right after he returned from Vietnam or otherwise.
Kerry's "anti-military" actions are a right-wing created fantasy manufactured during the campaigns in 2004 to make Kerry, who fought in Vietnam, look like a coward and Bush, who stayed home during Vietnam, look like a hero. Well, the propaganda lies fooled enough idiots like yourself.

Anonymous: If you cannot accept the fact and the truth even the Bush Administration knows, that the Bush Administration and his puppets cynically manipulated Kerry's actual statement to turn it into a criticism of the troops, then you are too stupid to be worth continued debating. It would be like debating with a baby.

I guess in your mind the color black really is the color white, north really is south, pyrite really is gold, etc.

8:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TWOT You are a stupid fuck. No one manipulated Kerrys words. They were his words and he said them. Nobody twisted them or misquoted them. I am done with you on this subject because you cant get your lips off of Kerrys ass to see how wrong he is. The coward didnt even have the balls to apologize in public. He is a disgrace as are you.

8:46 AM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

You see that is the core problem with many Repukes.
The debate is not over whether Kerry's mistatement was manipulated for attempted political gain.
Most thinking life forms, perhaps other than some Republicans, acknowledge that is what happened.
The debate is over whether Kerry's gaffe would cause Democrats political damage.
But Repukes cannot get off the shitter long enough over their baseless hatred of Kerry to debate the real topic, similar to the fact they cannot get off the shitter over Clinton to offer any real debate on Bush.

And while we are at it, why indeed no discussion over House Republican Majority leader John Boehner's bashing of the generals in Iraq yesterday?
Unlike the case with Kerry, Boehner's statement IS NOT TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

Shouldn't the Republicans be demanding of an apology from Boehner after they got their underwear so twisted up in a knot over Kerry?
If the Republicans do not get all hot and bothered over Boehner like they did Kerry, it demonstrates their true color -- hypocrisy.
It severely diminishes whatever credibility they might have otherwise had. It shows that the Republicans are nothing more than political opportunists after all.

9:12 AM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Of course Boehner won't apologize. Who needs to apologize when you're touched by god, or whatever the hell. Nice job blaming the troops on this mess because you've gotta just protect the boy king, Boner.

10:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Kerry is the "botched joke" of American politics. For those of you keeping score at home, John Kerry has now called members of the U.S. military (a) stupid, (b) crazy, (c) murderers, (d) rapists, (e) terrorizers of Iraqi women and children. I wonder what he'll call them tomorrow. Whatever Karl Rove is paying John Kerry to say stupid things, it's worth every penny.

Now, back to the midterm elections ...

Analysts place the average midterm loss for the party in the White House at around 15 to 44 seats, depending on which elections are counted -- only elected presidents, midterm elections since the Civil War, midterm elections since World War II, comparable-sized congresses, first and second midterm elections and so on.

The average first midterm election loss for every elected president since 1914 is 27 House seats and three Senate seats. The average sixth-year midterm election, like this year, is much worse for the president's party, which typically loses 34 seats in the House and six seats in the Senate.

This makes the average loss in two midterm elections for the party in the White House: 30 House seats and four or five Senate seats in each midterm election.

In his first midterm election, George W. Bush picked up six House seats and two Senate seats -- making him, according to The New York Times, "the first Republican president to gain House seats in an off-year election" and only the third president of either party to pick up House seats in a midterm election since the Civil War.

This means that for Democrats simply to match the historical average gain for the party out of the White House during the first and second midterm, they would have to pick up 67 seats in the House and 11 seats in the Senate. They're about 30 Mark Foleys short of having that happen.

It at least seems clear that Democrat gains this year are going to fall far short of the historical average. No poll has the Democrats winning even half of their rightful midterm gains.

Despite the precedent of big wins in midterm elections for the party out of power -- especially in a sixth-year midterm election -- something is depressing the Democrats' popularity with Americans this year. I suspect it's the perception that many of them are Democrats.

But instead of recognizing that the Democratic Party is a dying party, falling far short of its due historical gains, any gain by the Democrats will be hailed as a crowning mandate for the party that wants to lose the Iraq war, shut down Guantanamo and stop spying on Islamic terrorists on U.S. soil.

Even a dying party has death throes. If Democrats win a slight majority in the House or Senate, Americans will get shrill, insane leadership of the nation in time of war.

Democrats can't not be crazy. They will instantly set to work enacting a national gay marriage law, impeachment hearings, slavery reparations and a series of new federal felonies for abortion clinic protesters. The only way to get Democrats to focus on terrorists would be to convince them that the terrorists are interfering with a woman's right to choose or that commercial jetliners exploding in midair are a threat to America's wetlands.

The probable new House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, is in a catfight with Rep. Jane Harman for not being insane enough. Pelosi has indicated she will deny Harman the chairmanship of the Intelligence Committee, instead giving it to Rep. Alcee Hastings, whom Pelosi voted to impeach from his federal judgeship in 1988 for conspiring to extract a $150,000 bribe from convicted criminals in return for lowering their sentences.

An O.J. jury had acquitted Hastings on the bribery charge in a criminal proceeding, though his alleged co-conspirator, attorney William Borders, was convicted.

But the evidence of Hastings' bribery plot was so overwhelming that a Democratic House voted to impeach Hastings 413-3 on 17 separate counts -- including falsifying evidence to win his acquittal in the criminal case, and a majority Democratic Senate voted to convict Hastings on the very first count by 69-26, enough to remove him from office.

Rep. John Conyers Jr. -- another finalist for the coveted "craziest Democrat in congress" title -- led the charge for Hastings' impeachment, saying the judge had "betrayed his office."

In addition to having a history of soliciting bribes from criminals before his court, Hastings wants to shut down Guantanamo, and he adamantly opposes the U.S. government listening to phone calls from al-Qaida phones to anyone in America (especially federal judges negotiating bribery deals by telephone).

As millions of lunatic Muslims plot to murder Americans, some Americans -- we call them "Soccer Moms" -- will cast a vote to save Michael J. Fox this year. In the process, they will put all Americans at risk by voting for a frivolous, dying party.

10:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought John "I hate the military" Kerry said he was making it crystal clear that he wasnt going to apologize. Oh, thats right he didnt. He had one of his minions write up an apology and put it on his website.

He didnt have the testicular fortitude to give an apology in person, it was typed up on his website by one of his writers. I guess his people thought it would be safer to have it on the website instead of taking a chance of him giving a verbal apology and "botching" it. What a coward! As Rush said, "There is no need for Kerry to be wearing and athletic supporter."

11:26 AM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

Democrats can't not be crazy. They will instantly set to work enacting a national gay marriage law, impeachment hearings, slavery reparations and a series of new federal felonies for abortion clinic protesters. The only way to get Democrats to focus on terrorists would be to convince them that the terrorists are interfering with a woman's right to choose or that commercial jetliners exploding in midair are a threat to America's wetlands.

The probable new House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, is in a catfight with Rep. Jane Harman for not being insane enough.>>

It's really hard to argue with such hyperbolic insanity.

If you really believe the above, there isn't anything anyone can say to you. You probably think your cat is talking to you, and that there's a mass conspiracy to keep you from graduating from a minimum-wage job. Why not take the tin foil hat off once in a while, and join us in reality?

11:32 AM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

thought John "I hate the military" Kerry said he was making it crystal clear that he wasnt going to apologize. Oh, thats right he didnt. He had one of his minions write up an apology and put it on his website.
>>>

He also delivered it at a press conference, asshole. Guess truth doesn't matter much, huh?

11:33 AM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

So now we have 2 anonymous trolls. One can spell, the other one cannot. The polls show voters preferring, in a generic ballot, Democrats by 15-18 percentage points. Yet this genius anonymous somehow believes their popularity is 'being depressed' based on historical averages, which of course don't take into account gerrymandering and such that has reduced the number of competitive House races by a lot. Plus, the math just seems wrong to begin with, and being that this hysterical lunatic rant (millions of Muslims are plotting to kill us? MILLIONS? Thousands, ok. Millions? Hello?) really makes no sense at all, I can't even say I trust the math either.

The entire rant reads like an Ann Coulter column but without citing her shrillness herself. So congrats, anonymous, for at least being able to form coherent sentences that don't have grammatical problems. And thanks, though - you've proven to be yet another Republican who is so scared of his own shadow and thinks the rest of the country should think the same way.

11:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous' description of what would happen should Democrats take over congress is nothing more than paranoid bullshit, probably heard from Limbaugh or Levin.
Any Republican inclined to believe such complete bullshit deserves whatever manure government can shovel at them, whether it be from Republicans or Democrats.

5:20 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

trinity said...
whoop4467 said...
"What is a fact is about 58% of the troops today come from a poor background,25% from the middle class and 17% from the upper middle class. The poor 58% are not dumb but rather mostly un-educated."

The Heritage Foundation did a study last November that doesn't seem to jibe with your stats, Whoop. Do you have a source for your figures?

I did not find my source again. It was in a blog that I saw on another blog about another subject.

I looked at your source and the census median income levels for 2003 and 2004. Here is a summary of what I found.

The census article said the definition of middle income varies and could be different from state to state,but the most common is $40,000 - $65,000 or maybe $40,000 - $95,000. The 2004 poverty level in 2004 for a family of 4 was $19,380.

In your heritage article, the various income levels was based upon 2003 household income levels normalized to 1999 dollars. I will show the enlistment % for 2003 in the five approximate household income levels shown in their chart:
1. $0 - 29,400 14.6%
2. $29,500 - $35,200 19.8%
3. $35,300 - $41,700 21.2%
4. $41,800 - 52,000 22.4%
5. $52,100 - $200,000 22% Note: the last range is a higher dynamic range and does not go over $200,000; therefore millionaires do not enlist in the military. One thing the report said was that there was no effort to find out if those that enlisted in each range if they were the lowest household income enlistees in those ranges.

If you go by the census definition of middle income, then by the heritage chart approximately 55.6% of the enlistees are below the middle income group and I said 58% in the poor category. If you were to modify their last two groups a little bit to this:
4. $41,800 - $65,000( or even $95,000) to be be the middle income and
5. $65,000 -$200,000
then their chart would be closer to the 25% or maybe higher than the 22.4% in their article. Then that would leave only about 17% in the above middle income group.

From what I read of the heritage report that you referenced, my numbers are in agreement with theirs.

The whole point of my post was that the poorest among us are carrying the biggest burden for the "war on terror" no matter how you dice up the numbers. The point I did not make before is that the ones among us that benefit the most financially from our freedoms are the least among us to enlist and fight the "war on terror".

The point I did try to make was the most fortunate among us do not enlist and fight the "war on terror" and the majority of those are the most boastfull in their rhetoric for the need to fight the "war on terror", which is the repukes with back problems!!

5:41 PM  
Blogger Crystal said...

I beleive that Kerry was speaking to the fact that many, many of our servicemen are there because of the educational benefits that are given during, and after serving, and you wouldn't need to join if you had gotten scholarships. A lot of people were not blessed with a family that can pay for their education.
He could have been more clear, for sure.

9:22 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

The Republicans strategy is failing miserably.
Here's a Reuters story from yesterday demonstrating that Kerry's botched joke has had no impact on the elections.
http://elections.us.reuters.com/top/news/usnN02400192.html

7:57 AM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

I'm sorry. I meant above the Reuters story indicates the Kerry botched joke WILL HAVE no impact on the elections.
Thanks.

8:35 AM  

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