Thursday, November 09, 2006

AP Declares Webb Winner In Virginia, Giving Democrats Control Of Senate; Republican Leaders Call On Allen To Concede

A historic week for the Democrats appears to have gotten a whole lot better.

The Associated Press declared Democrat Jim Webb the winner late Wednesday of the Virginia Senate race, and reported that his victory gives the Democrats 51 Senate seats and majorities in both the House and Senate for the first time since 1994.

The AP contacted election officials in all 134 Virginia localities where voting occurred. About half said they had completed their post-election canvassing and nearly all had counted outstanding absentees. Most were expected to be finished by tomorrow.

The Democrat's lead over the Republican incumbent rose to more than 7,300 votes, within the margin under state law for a state-paid recount. Out of 2.3 million votes cast, the margin is about 0.3 percent. But election experts say overcoming that kind of lead has almost never been done in a recount.

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An adviser to Allen, speaking on condition of anonymity because his boss hasn't formally decided to end the campaign, told the AP that the senator wanted to wait until most of the canvassing was completed before announcing his decision, possibly as early as this evening. The adviser said that Allen was disinclined to request a recount if the final vote spread was similar to that of election night.

Meanwhile, the National Journal Hotline reports that "top Republicans in Washington will give Sen. George Allen a few days to take stock of his legal and political options before beginning to pressure him to concede to James Webb. Senior Republican officials and White House aides believe that Webb won the race. Several outside advisers to Allen want him to make the decision quickly."

Goodbye, Sen. "Macaca."

23 Comments:

Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

Hey anonymous who kept asking "why doesn't JABBS write about Allen" and "what happened to Webb beating Sen. macaca":

How's it feel now, you pompous ass.

Maybe now you'll realize, Americans aren't stupid. Virginians aren't stupid. When you're caught on tape making a racial slur, people notice. When you are uncomfortable with learning that you have Jewish roots, people wonder. When people come out of the woodwork to cite examples of you being a racist, people give it serious consideration.

When the best you can do to respond is yell and scream (via Matt Drudge) about books that conservatives have praised for 20 years, people scratch their heads.

Allen ran a lousy campaign. He was his own worst enemy, made Webb competitive and ultimately made Webb a winner.

And you, anonymous, so certain that Allen would win, baiting JABBS and the liberal commenters on this site. I hope you enjoy your humble pie.

12:45 AM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Allen ran a lousy campaign. He was his own worst enemy, made Webb competitive and ultimately made Webb a winner.

Indeed he did. Webb probably shouldn't have even been in the race, and he won. Allen ran a terrible campaign.

Hakuna Makaka!!!

7:15 AM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

Let us know how that crow tastes, anonymous.

9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Caught on tape making a racial slur? Dont seem to recall that one. Did he say nigger and terrorize them with a gun from a car? I do know the Virginians just elected a pervert who thought up images of a father performing oral sex on his own child. But what the hell, you Dems love perverts. As for Pennsylvania, that state lost big time by electing an empty suit. Enjoy the next 2 years Donks. I am sure you will fuck up the country big time.

10:36 AM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Caught on tape making a racial slur? Dont seem to recall that one.

What are you, that guy from Memento? What reality are you living in? Helloooooooooooo.

11:03 AM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

anonymous doesn't recall the racial slur, because anonymous lives in a bubble. Mark Levin dismissed "macaca" as the invention of the "liberal media."

Anonymous does what he is told.

11:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

macaca has a press conference scheduled for 3 p.m.

1:00 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Get real, people. Webb can thank the Washington Post for his apparent victory in this close race. They were relentless in their attacks of Sen. Allen, and made political hay out of a stupid off-handed comment that only the more gullible among sincerely believe was actually Allen making a racial slur.

Nobody, including Allen, had any clue that "macaca" was some sort of obscure reference to race in some other country. If you believe that, you're really quite stupid, imo. It was simply a golden opportunity for Allen's opponents to pull the race card, and they had the PR wherewithal (curtesy of the Washington Post) to accomplish it. It was political hardball at its most distasteful level, and nothing to be proud of.

1:23 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Anonymous said...
"macaca has a press conference scheduled for 3 p.m."


He's not expected to concede just yet.

1:25 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

"Get real, people. Webb can thank the Washington Post for his apparent victory in this close race. They were relentless in their attacks of Sen. Allen, and made political hay out of a stupid off-handed comment that only the more gullible among sincerely believe was actually Allen making a racial slur."

Trinity aren't you the one who vehemently and repeatedly argued on this blog that Limbaugh had only made an "off-hand remark" about Michael J. Fox, and, in so many words, that only the more gullible would interpret Limbaugh to be actually attacking someone unfortunate enough to have Parkinsons.

Hypocrite.

2:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"When I campaigned they called me Sen. Macaca/And the people they said I'm no buena/Ehhhhh Macaca!
They don't want me/They won't have me/So they dance beside me/They tell me to concede.
A la tumuelpa ligria Macaca/
Que tubuelce baralla lejria casa no buena (whatever)/Ehhhh Macaca!"

3:12 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Twot, I have no idea what your point might be. I'm a hypocrite in your eyes exactly why??? Do you know the meaning of the word?

I'm saying that George Allen, a well-spoken and popular Senator, and one with presidential aspirations, called that obnoxious jerk of a stalker and harasser a dopey name.

Leave it to the race-baiters to do what they do so well, and make it about a racial slur when that was not the case. Bunch of creeps. I don't know how they sleep at night.

As far as Rush goes, my thoughts on that issue are already recorded.

3:28 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

I think you are right this time, Trinity. You're not a hypocrite because you spread equal opportunity bias towards Repukes and Repuke sympathizers alike.

4:07 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

made political hay out of a stupid off-handed comment that only the more gullible among sincerely believe was actually Allen making a racial slur.

>>

you're being condescending here, trinity.

let me throw out a similar example from an earlier election.

jesse jackson used the term "hymies" and "hymietown" back in 1984. he claimed it was a word he'd used for years, heard Jews use for years, etc. He said he didn't mean anything by it. He liked Jews, etc.

A lot of people didn't buy it. Throw in other related things -- his relationship with Louis Farrakhan, for example -- and you got a picture of a guy who might not be the biggest friend of the Jews. Outright anti-Semite? Maybe, maybe not. Probably not. But was there an insensitivity there? Sure. And that hurt a lof of people, and it hurt Jackson's standing within the Democratic Party, both among Jews and others.

This macaca incident is very similar. Allen said something, caught on tape (vs. revealed in an article, in Jackson's case). Allen claimed it was a nonsense word. His campaign came up with other excuses. Allen was slow to apologize. It was learned that macaca is a racial slur among French Tunisians. Allen's mother is French Tunisian.

Then, out of the woodwork come people who knew Allen as a younger man, and claim he used the "N Word." Throw in the weird thing surrounding Allen finding out about his Jewish roots (and his quaetionsable reaction), and also other reference points (the noose in the office, the conservative flag lapel in his HS yearbook) and a not insignificant number of people in Virginia began to wonder if Allen was insensitive. Racist? Probably not, but that's not where the bar was set.

Allen made two mistakes: he said some insensitive things, and then he failed to apologize quickly and neatly. And what would have been a minor incident became a snowball.

btw, what i'm writing is not some liberal fantasy. go read george will's 11/1 column. go read what bob novak said about allen a few weeks ago on Meet The Press.

4:14 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

I'm saying that George Allen, a well-spoken and popular Senator, and one with presidential aspirations, called that obnoxious jerk of a stalker and harasser a dopey name.

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a) By the accounts I've read, Siddarth ("the obnoxious jerk") was a guy with a camera in the back of a public gathering.

b) If he was a "stalker," then what do you call the people from the Allen campaign taping what Webb said?

c) Seems to me you would have preferred that Allen's gaffe hadn't become public knowledge. Is that really the best thing -- not knowing that your representatives say things that some take as insensitive? Would it have been better to not learn that Jesse Jackson called Jews "hymies?"

To the best of my knowledge, no objective source has suggested Siddarth was doing anything more than what the Allen campaign was doing. It's called "opposition research," I believe.

4:19 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Nobody, including Allen, had any clue that "macaca" was some sort of obscure reference to race in some other country.
No, of course not. He just happened to make up a word that means "n****rs" in the country his mother came from. Sure. Whatever.

I'm saying that George Allen, a well-spoken and popular Senator, and one with presidential aspirations, called that obnoxious jerk of a stalker and harasser a dopey name.
Trinity, he wasn't a stalker. He was a guy from the Webb campaign assigned to tape Allen events. The Allen campaign had one of those guys too. Every campaign has one of them these days. And what makes you say he was obnoxious?


Your guy lost, and deserved it.

But really, you should be thanking our side. Because clearly he has some deficiencies that would have shown him to be a piss-poor presidential candidate, and now you'll emerge for 2008 without having his candidacy to be an albatross around your neck. So look on the bright side. :)

4:47 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...
"you're being condescending here, trinity.

let me throw out a similar example from an earlier election.
jesse jackson used the term "hymies" and "hymietown" back in 1984. he claimed it was a word he'd used for years, heard Jews use for years, etc. He said he didn't mean anything by it. He liked Jews, etc."


Please, cutiepie. You're being a bit TOO cute here. There aren't very many people, especially among those living in the Northeastern part of our country, who wouldn't know what the word "hymie" means. I think we can agree that it constitutes a racial slur in that neck of the woods.

Furthermore, if you go back far enough, Americans weren't obsessed with political correctness the way they are today. It's entirely possible that Jesse Jackson did use the word "hymie" all his life without giving it a second thought, although by 1984 I would have thought he's have tried to break the habit.

Anyhow, it's not so with the word "macaca". Prior to all the publicity it got, you didn't know what it meant, nor did I, and it's not even something you can say for sure that Allen understood.

Many of us have parents or grandparents who spoke another language around the house, and not all of us actually learned that language. It's entirely possible for a person to pick up a word or phrase and repeat it, without actually really understanding that it had a derogative meaning.

But of course, when people are already predisposed to believe the worst about somebody, there's no reasoning with them. You wouldn't give Allen the benefit of the doubt, so that's that. It's over with. He's out. Let's move on.

6:27 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

Many of us have parents or grandparents who spoke another language around the house, and not all of us actually learned that language. It's entirely possible for a person to pick up a word or phrase and repeat it, without actually really understanding that it had a derogative meaning.

>>

Possible, but would you use it to make fun of somebody -- on camera -- without knowing for sure what it meant?

And macaca, as I said before, is only part of the bigger story. Just like hymie was only part of a bigger story with Jackson.

The WaPo polled Virginians, and a majority said that macaca bothered them. Even thouugh exit polls said that 57% of Virginians think Allen had no problems with minorities, it nonetheless resonated with a good chunk of people.

And then throw in what came afterward. It's natural for the media to ask, "Is this an isolated incident, or part of a trend?" And the "ham sandwich" comment after he found out he was Jewish didn't sound right. And the noose in his office and the confederate flag on his lapel were already well-known in some circles. It all adds up in people's minds.

Like I said, people probably don't think Allen is a racist. But a decent number of them think he's insensitive -- not a positive trait.

6:35 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

Trinity would defend the devil if he/she were a Republican! There is no proof that that the devil isn't a Republican. Have a "Macacia" day and pick your own definition of "Macacia"! I have never heard of the word before, I just made it today!

8:16 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...
"The WaPo polled Virginians, and a majority said that macaca bothered them. Even thouugh exit polls said that 57% of Virginians think Allen had no problems with minorities, it nonetheless resonated with a good chunk of people."


Exactly, cutiepie. How much sense does that make? It's illogical. It's political correctness run amuck, with a little asininity thrown in for good measure.

It seems to matter not that the majority of Sen. Allen's constituents believed him to be a decent man and not a bigot, because there are a good number of morons out there who allowed the Washington Post to convince them that Allen somehow didn't deserve re-election.

I believe that's referred to as symbolism over substance in conservative parlance. Lemmings.

8:15 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

To Whoop...

"Not worthy of a response", or "NWOAR" for short. This way you will know what it stands for the next time you see it.

8:20 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

to trinity


IRAQ is and was "NOWOAR"! I like your abreviation!

1:44 AM  
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