Wednesday, October 11, 2006

Poll: Just 31% Say We're Winning "War On Terror"

Just 31% of American adults say the U.S. and its allies are winning the "war on terror," according to a new Rasmussen Reports poll -- the lowest figure since Rasmussen began polling the question two years ago.

Worse, a plurality of respondents say the terrorists are winning -- 36%. Another 22% say neither side is winning.

The percentage that think the U.S. and its allies are winning has dropped steadily over the past 10 months, since it last peaked at 50% in December. In two September polls, 41% of responsdents said the U.S. and its allies are winning.

31 Comments:

Anonymous MellowMan said...

Who did they ask? How many in poll? Were they all American citizens? What questions were used in the poll?

Rasmussen needs to poll the American GI's who are actually in Iraq in the midst of the war.

11:11 AM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

if you go to the link, you'll see that it was a nationwide telephone survey of 1,000 adults.

i agree, a separate poll of GIs would be of interest.

11:44 AM  
Anonymous kurth said...

It's the same bottom 30%
The sticky bottom of the barrel.

11:46 AM  
Anonymous bunny planet said...

who is this mind numbing 30% and how, by any stretch of the imagination do they perceive us as winning anything.

11:46 AM  
Anonymous BlueJazz said...

In other News >> Recent polls have certified that 31 percent of the American Public (scientifically Speaking) are "Dumb as a Box of Rocks" and couldn't "Find their Intelligence with an Electronic Tunneling Microscope"

11:59 AM  
Anonymous SpreadItAround said...

This just in..31% of Americans are morons.

12:00 PM  
Anonymous No Surrender said...

The Kool-Aid guzzlers

33% think the chimp's doin' a fine job, and 31% think we're winning the WOT.

12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there was a conservative from missouri -- man on the street -- who said he'd "hold his nose and vote republican," because he didn't think the Democrats offered a better alternative.

I have to figure that represents the 31% ...

12:00 PM  
Anonymous bulterd said...

Who(m) will they hold accountable?

If only 31% of the public believes we are "winning" the so-called "war on terrorism", then I guess Bush/GOP really aren't doing such a good job fighting terrorism after all (contrary to public mythology). Unless you really believe (as Bush/GOP seems to want us to) that Bill Clinton and Al Gore are(somehow) running a "shadow government" with Bush/Cheney serving as their willing "puppets", then Bush/GOP have NOBODY to blame but themselves for how everything has (not) turned out for them and the rest of us.

12:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I noticed the poll was taken over the weekend. Oct. 7-8. It would be interesting to see the results of a poll taken, like now, after the situation with N. Korea has more fully sunk in. Might that 30% sink to a 25% or even lower?

12:01 PM  
Anonymous butlerd said...

Of course!

Clinton (somehow) seems to be responsible for everything (bad) that has happened to us during the six years that BUSH has been President (with a GOP-led Congress no less). You have to admire just how powerful he must be to command such influence. Anybody else getting sick and tired of the "Blame Clinton First" crowd? If the only thing that the GOP (the so-called "party of personal responsibility") can do to excuse themselves for their mistakes when they are currently in charge of everything (or at least appear to be) is to blame somebody who hasn't been President for six years, then they truly are pathetic.

12:01 PM  
Anonymous Texas Explorer said...

Does 31% qualify as a "just"? I mean, it's just still alot of sheeple who have absolutely no fucking idea what's going on beyond the tip of their nose.

Unbelievable.

12:01 PM  
Anonymous NewJeffCT said...

Obviously, the people aren't getting the truth

I mean, over 20 million Iraqis were not killed today!

A majority of the cars in Baghdad did not contain bombs!

The death squads surely missed a few people on their missions today.

12:02 PM  
Anonymous PreacherCasey said...

I would love to hear from this president exactly what "winning the war on terror" actually means. How do we know when the war is over and we've won? When every terrorist or terrorist sympathizer on Earth is jailed/killed? Also, I would love to know what he thinks the root causes of terrorism and Anti-American sentiment are in the Middle East. These are the fundamental issues of the so called "war on terror" and he, nor any other politician, ever address them.

12:02 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

JEez, some people can't even follow basic Web links.

Who did they ask?
Americans. As they always do.
How many in poll?
1,000 people. It says it if you click through.
Were they all American citizens?
Yes. The poll refers to Americans.
What questions were used in the poll?
You have to sign up for Rasmussen's premium content to find out. But the headline says, "just 31% of American adults say the U.S. and its allies are winning the War on Terror." Which would suggest the question was something along those lines.

12:14 PM  
Anonymous Widget said...

Hey, Casey,

"I would love to hear..."

Don't you ever listen? President Bush is very clear on the WOT.

Casey what do YOU think?

What do you want the president to do?

12:18 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

Widget. I listen to Bush's speeches. Why not tell us how in your mind "Bush is very clear on the WOT?"
So you think he really answers those questions Casey raises? How so?

Here's what I think the president should do. Resign. Immediately.
Cheney, Dumbsfeld and Rice too.
We can have a bipartisan panel of Congress call an emergency session to appoint replacements on an interim basis until the 2008 election.
With the biggest factor of political divisiveness out of the way, the panel would be able to move quickly for the common good of the country.
Think of it.
America's international credibility would be instantly restored. Good faith negotiations would open up around the world to deal with terrorism, nuclear bombs and other issues like a blossoming flower.
Meanwhile, we would again have competent leaders to begin the complicated process of undoing 6 years of Bush foreign policy disasters.

12:38 PM  
Anonymous Widget said...

Dave Gullible,

There you go again.

"....would suggest that the question was something along those lines."

MellowMan asked, "What questions were used in the poll?"

Dave Gullible, don't spin and don't make something up just because you think it looks good and might lend credence to a left-wing 'poll'.

12:39 PM  
Anonymous Widget said...

Twot, you don't really mean all that.

You don't even care what your fellow Americans think of you.

When was the last time you negotiated with someone on the Right?

Have you ever moved towards improving or restoring your own credibility with a Republican?

Boy, I would like to see that.

Till that moment, Twot, you are the one who is talking to you own 'straw man' or whomever is writing your material.

12:47 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

I offered a bipartisan solution, Widget.
However, perhaps the resignation of the Bush team and the bipartisan replacements would have to wait until after the November elections.
Knowledge of this pending change would dramatically increase Republicans chances of retaining hold of congress.
On this note, maybe my idea is not a very good one.

1:10 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Dave Gullible, don't spin and don't make something up just because you think it looks good and might lend credence to a left-wing 'poll'.

I'm attempting to help out the Mellowman here. If he wants to find out, he can sign up for Rasmussen. What's your excuse, mouth-breather?

1:17 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

Widget --

I don't think Rasmussen is "left-wing." In fact, Sean Hannity has a regular segment with the Rasmussen and Zogby guys, and I've never heard him introduce them as left-wingers or some such name-calling.

1:29 PM  
Anonymous Widget said...

Cutiepie, you listen to Sean?

Regular listener?

There's hope for you yet.

Now leave your radio on that dial and listen to Mark Levin, the Great One.

Excellent daily line-up -

Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin.

2:22 PM  
Anonymous MrToffeeLovesYa said...

Liberals will continue to note poll after poll showing that Bush's numbers are in the toilet, but that's old news.

What this poll shows is that there is 31% -- and other polls show Bush's overall popularity at up to 39% -- of the country still supports this president. Liberals might call them names or discount their intelligence, but they are the hard-core conservative base, and there's no getting rid of them. No matter what news comes -- Foley, Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney, the NIE report, etc. -- they will, to quote from above "hold their noses and vote Republican" because they don't think the Democrats will do any better.

C'mon, liberals. Just because a majority of Americans disagree with Bush on everything from Iraq to the economy to Social Security privatization doesn't mean that they'll necessarily vote Democrat. They may still vote Republican. They may stay home. They may pray that someone rigs a Diebold machine. Pow!

Wake up and smell reality, liberal America. Unless the Democrats can put togethe a coherent platform, a reason to vote for them, all they'll be left with is scratching their heads and wondering why Bush's low poll numbers don't translate into Democratic control of anything next month.

Simply arguing against every major Bush initiative, or fact-checking every Bush statement, or noting inconsistencies in what Congressional Republicans do, or highlighting flip-flops among the Bush Administration, or trumpeting every time a Republican breaks ranks is not enough. The question is, can liberals convince the masses that they can do better? So far, that hasn't been the case.

The hard-core conservatives are not going to swtich side, no matter how many derogatory names the liberals come up with.

What liberals don't recognize is that over the course of this decade, it's been easier for conservatives to rally their base than for liberals to expand theirs.

2:27 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

"Excellent daily line-up -
Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin."

What is that? Like the parade of horrors?

As for Mr. Toffee, who is never much good for anything other than spouting Bushie Levinsque conservative bullshit, fact-challenged talking points, continues with that tradition when he says:
"The popular view is that Liberals cannot offer anything better."
And "The Liberals do not have a plan."

Despite what Toffee says, I believe generally the people in the U.S. recognize they are MUCH TOO GOOD to accept an excuse for the failures of its politicians such as: "well the other party could only do worse."

2:49 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

As for Mr. Toffee, who is never much good for anything other than spouting Bushie Levinsque conservative bullshit, fact-challenged talking points, continues with that tradition when he says:
"The popular view is that Liberals cannot offer anything better."
And "The Liberals do not have a plan."

>>>

TWOT, to be fair to Toffee, that's not what he said.

If we're going to take issue with the conservatives twisting our words, we shouldn't do the same.

2:54 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

Alias Cutiepie,
I don't agree at all that I have twisted Toffee's words.
I stand by my above Post exactly as stated and take offense at the accusation.

This is what I referenced when I quoted Toffee as saying "Liberals do not have a plan."
"Wake up and smell reality, liberal America. Unless the Democrats can put togethe a coherent platform, a reason to vote for them, all they'll be left with is scratching their heads and wondering why Bush's low poll numbers don't translate into Democratic control of anything next month."

And when I summed up his statements with: "The popular view is that Liberals cannot offer anything better," I referred to his comment:
"Simply arguing against every major Bush initiative, or fact-checking every Bush statement, or noting inconsistencies in what Congressional Republicans do, or highlighting flip-flops among the Bush Administration, or trumpeting every time a Republican breaks ranks is not enough. The question is, can liberals convince the masses that they can do better? So far, that hasn't been the case"

My summation statements were accurate representations of Toffee's long-winded claims and did not twist his words.

3:24 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

I don't mean to belabor the point, TWOT, but:

This is what I referenced when I quoted Toffee as saying "Liberals do not have a plan."

"Wake up and smell reality, liberal America. Unless the Democrats can put togethe a coherent platform, a reason to vote for them, all they'll be left with is scratching their heads and wondering why Bush's low poll numbers don't translate into Democratic control of anything next month."

I read that not as "liberals do not have a plan," but rather that they have to make their plan clear to voters, and not just rely on Bush's unpopularity. Not unreasonable, if I understand Toffee's long-windedness.

And when I summed up his statements with: "The popular view is that Liberals cannot offer anything better," I referred to his comment:

"Simply arguing against every major Bush initiative, or fact-checking every Bush statement, or noting inconsistencies in what Congressional Republicans do, or highlighting flip-flops among the Bush Administration, or trumpeting every time a Republican breaks ranks is not enough. The question is, can liberals convince the masses that they can do better? So far, that hasn't been the case"

I think Toffee is being sarcastic, but it's basically the same point: can Democrats get their point across, because simply relying on Bush's unpopularity isn't a real gameplan.

Toffee, feel free to correct/chastise me if I got it wrong. Frankly, after weaving through all the widget and anonymous comments, I found Toffee almost refreshing!

6:04 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

I still stand by my read of Toffee's comments, and quite frankly, don't think his usual fact-starved, anti-Liberal screed was worthy of all this attention. Except perhaps to note:

"The question is, can liberals convince the masses that they can do better? So far, that hasn't been the case."
Never mind the dozens of recent polls showing Democrats favored over Republicans to overtake Congress by double-digits, as much as 23%.
http://tinyurl.com/pkz8k
And I would wager that the combined 68% who think either that neither side is winning the war on terrorism or the terrorists (the original subject of this post) are winning would include at least some of those "hard core conservatives" who have extricated themselves out of the 39%, down to 34% and 33% in some recent polls, holding onto support for Bush.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/archive/?poll_id=19

6:55 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

Typo above: I meant the combined 58%

6:57 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

TWOT, Cutiepie, I agree with both of you. I think there's a bit of the usual anti-liberal screed in there, but the fact is, the Democrats haven't been able to get their point across in the same way as the GOP did in the 2002 and 2004 elections. And your stat, TWOT, the ones that say people are looking for the Dems to overtake Congress, well, that's good, but I think we're still at the wait-and-see point. (Ask again on Nov. 8.) I don't agree that the Dems have no plan - they could lay out a million ideas and the GOP would still say they have no plan. People forget the vauntd "Contract with America" didn't become well-known until 3 weeks before the 1994 elections (that's where we are now, tho). Currently, I don't know what the GOPs plan is, other than to stick with the same crap that isn't working.

8:44 PM  

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