Tuesday, October 24, 2006

Limbaugh Attacks Michael J. Fox, Saying Symptoms Of Fox's Parkinson's Disease Are "Purely An Act"

On the Oct. 23 edition of his nationally syndicated radio program, Rush Limbaugh accused actor Michael J. Fox, who has Parkinson's disease, of "exaggerating the effects of the disease" in a recent campaign advertisement for Missouri Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill.

In the ad, Fox endorses McCaskill for supporting embryonic stem cell research, which her opponent, incumbent Republican Sen. Jim Talent, opposes.

Noting that Fox is "moving all around and shaking" in the ad, Limbaugh declared: "And it's purely an act. This is the only time I have ever seen Michael J. Fox portray any of the symptoms of the disease he has." Limbaugh added that "this is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting, one of the two."

Later in the broadcast, Limbaugh stated that "I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong." ... However, Limbaugh then returned to criticizing Fox, stating that "Michael J. Fox is using his illness as a way to mislead voters into thinking that their vote for a single United States senator has a direct impact on stem cell research in Missouri. It doesn't, and it won't."
-- MediaMatters, Oct. 23

38 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was wondering if Michael J. Fox wanted some fries with that shake.

Now thats funny right there. I dont care who you are.

HA HA HA HA HA

9:59 AM  
Anonymous trinity said...

I'm sure Rush will get plenty of negative feedback as a result of his remarks about Fox's Parkinson's, but in today's ultra-politically correct environment, he could have been a lot more tactful in what he said, and still left himself wide open for a world of criticism.

But Rush is a big boy, and I'm sure he can handle the flack. In almost two decades of doing his radio show, there are bound to be times when he will say something that many people feel crosses the line. I think this may be one of those times.

On the other side of the coin, if Fox, who as someone pointed out is a Canadian, not an American, wants to start inserting himself into tight U.S. Senate races, he might be leaving himself open for some insensitive criticism.

11:04 AM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

On the other side of the coin, if Fox, who as someone pointed out is a Canadian, not an American, wants to start inserting himself into tight U.S. Senate races, he might be leaving himself open for some insensitive criticism.

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a) I believe he has had dual citizenship for about 15 years. I remember him talking about it after he played the George Stephanopoulos-esque role in "The American President."

b) Criticizing his belief in the promise of stem cell research is fair game. It's a major political issue, and there are clearly two sides to it. (I agree with Fox's side.)

But criticizing him for having the symptoms of Parkinson's should be off-limits.

People like anonymous above may think it's funny to laugh at the infirmed. It just shows anonymous' stupidity and bigotry.

11:47 AM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

On the other side of the coin, if Fox, who as someone pointed out is a Canadian, not an American, wants to start inserting himself into tight U.S. Senate races, he might be leaving himself open for some insensitive criticism.

What a stupid statement.

Trinity, it's one thing to criticize a person for their views -- saying they're dumb because they wanna vote for Hillary, yada yada. It's another thing to make fun of their disease.

1:04 PM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

Limbaugh, a fat ignorant windbag radio comedian for the fringe right, should be taken as seriously on political issues or on anything else of importance as Howard Stern.
Limbaugh could only dream of being half of a humanitarian as Michael J. Fox.

1:07 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...
"I believe he has had dual citizenship for about 15 years. I remember him talking about it after he played the George Stephanopoulos-esque role in "The American President.""


Thanks, cutiepie. I did just hear that he has indeed become a U.S. citizen, although I don't believe it's been 15 years. In any case, I stand corrected. :)

"Criticizing his belief in the promise of stem cell research is fair game. It's a major political issue, and there are clearly two sides to it. (I agree with Fox's side.)

But criticizing him for having the symptoms of Parkinson's should be off-limits."


I think what Rush said was that he had never seen Fox demonstrate such extreme symptoms before, which prompted him to speculate on whether or not he had refrained from taking his medication for the purpose of producing a more dramatic/effective/sympathy-provoking commercial.

Now I don't know if that was the case or not, but it's entirely possible, seeing as Fox did state in his book, "Lucky Man: A Memoir" that when he testified before the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee, he did so unmedicated.

1:11 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Dave G. said...
"Trinity, it's one thing to criticize a person for their views -- saying they're dumb because they wanna vote for Hillary, yada yada. It's another thing to make fun of their disease."


Dave G., Rush wasn't making fun of Fox's disease. He was commenting on the fact that in recent appearances, Fox's symptoms weren't nearly as severe as they were in the commercial, and he wondered why that was.

In any case, the main problem that Rush and others have with the commercial that Fox made is that it misrepresents the entire issue. First off, neither Steele in Maryland, nor Talent in Missouri, are against stem-cell research. Neither is President Bush, who was the first U.S. President ever to authorize federal funding for ANY such research.

Secondly, what Amendment 2 in Missouri does, is to insert a right to cloning into the state constitution, which is what the objections are to. Stem-cell research is already legal in both Maryland and Missouri, and many other states.

If Fox is going to allow both his celebrity and his disease to be exploited for political purposes, and in such a dishonest way, what can I say?

1:28 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

I suppose it's entirely possible that the Dems may have mislead Fox also. I don't know. Maybe he just believed them when they said that Talent wants to criminalize stem-cell research.

Here's a pretty comprehensive article that states a side of the argument that you will not find on JABBS.

http://tinyurl.com/ynhrgc

1:36 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

I would also add that in the Talent VS McCaskill race, the left-wing group, ACORN, has been caught engaging in questionable voter registration practices in an effort to promote McCaskill.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oJ6SrZODbHg

1:43 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Another thing, the left-wing group, ACORN, has been documented engaging in illegal voter registration practices in an effort to help get McCaskill elected in this close Senate race.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=oJ6SrZODbHg

1:46 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Sorry about that. It didn't look like that first post went through and I rewrote it.

1:48 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Trinity, my bad. I shouldn't have said "making fun of." He wasn't. But he was casting doubt on the effects of the disease he was showing, with rank speculation that he went off his meds and acted out the part of a guy suffering worse than he is.

"And it's purely an act. This is the only time I have ever seen Michael J. Fox portray any of the symptoms of the disease he has."

Is he a doctor? I mean, BULLSHIT, plain and simple. What does he know about Parkinson's? Anything?

Trinity, if you wanna argue that MJ Fox is misrepresenting the position of Talent, or of Bush (even though we know we're talking about federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research, which the president is opposed to, as opposed to existing lines or adult stem cells), then argue that (as you are.) But don't defend Rush as if he's making some kind of salient point about Michael J. Fox and the position he's arguing from when he is, really, just attacking him for having a disease and, I don't know, not being "sick enough," I suppose. Because that's what it comes down to. It's the difference between attacking someone for views you disagree with and just attacking their person.

2:34 PM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

Rush wasn't making fun of Fox's disease. He was commenting on the fact that in recent appearances, Fox's symptoms weren't nearly as severe as they were in the commercial, and he wondered why that was.

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Trinity, Rush, as is often the case, was ill-informed on the subject matter. He was corrected within minutes by his staff on whether Fox had shown those symptoms before. Furthermore, anyone paying attention to Fox's situation would know he's undergone surgeries to relieve the symptoms, which are getting progressively worse after more than a decade of having the disease.

Perhaps, before he talks about a subject -- it's not like it was an off the cuff comment -- el Rushbo might want to do some homework first. Otherwise, he potentially comes off sounding like an idiot.

2:46 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

rob of wilmington, del. said...
"Trinity, Rush, as is often the case, was ill-informed on the subject matter."


I would agree that Rush probably isn't all that familiar with the intimate details of Michael J. Fox's Parkinsons, rob, but I think he was just shocked to see him exhibit such violent trembling, when in public appearances only a short time before, he appeared to be in much better shape, due to the fact that he was medicated at the time. The contrast was obviously quite striking and seems to have caught Rush off-guard.

4:15 PM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

He was being ignorant, Trinity.

And I would argue that if he's ignorant on something as straightforward and well-documented as Fox's struggle with Parkinson's -- or the debilitating effect of Parkinson's -- then it stands to reason that El Rushbo is ignorant on other issues, too.

4:26 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Maybe it's a lesson that when you don't know much about a subject, you don't go popping off about it, accusing him of faking his sickness, more or less. It's a damned stupid thing to say, period.

4:30 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

With regard to the NRO article that Trinity cites:

1) Bush allowed funding for a limited number of stem cell lines, which scientists say are now essentially useless.

2) Bush vetoed further funding for stem cell research, over-riding a majority of Congress and the majority opinion of Americans. He over-rided several top Republicans, too, including Bill Frist and Arlen Specter.

3) Opposing federal funding for embryonic stem cell research is not identical to opposing embryonic stem cell research.

But Fox doesn't say that in the ad script. He says:

"George Bush and Michael Steele would put limits on the most promising stem cell research.

Fortunately, Marylanders have a chance to vote for Ben Cardin.

Cardin fully supports life-saving stem cell research. It's why I support Ben Cardin."

This is accurate. By opposing federal funding, Bush and Steele, and Talent, are limiting the amount of money needed for this expensive research. That's why some governors, like Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger, have had to take a lead role. But the individual efforts of states or private universities cannot match the vastness of the federal budget for scientific research via the NIH, or its grants.

4:37 PM  
Anonymous flakey_foont said...

why would you expect anything else from Limbaugh? He is SLIME!! Of course, if Michael J. Fox was endorsing Talent,,well, Rush the AHole would be praising him

5:06 PM  
Anonymous FormerRushFan said...

He and Glenn Beck deserve to be scraped off the bottom of our shoes.

My pivotal moment with talk radio came with Glenn Beck's insensitivity to a quadriplegic. People are just meat for the grinder to these guys getting bigger tax cuts.

5:06 PM  
Anonymous no_hypocrisy said...

Maybe Rush has a beef with Alex P. Keaton from "Family Ties" and has confused Michael J. Fox with the character whom Rush believes is a traitor to "the cause".

5:07 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

With all of the success modern medicine is having with stem-cell research, what is this unhealthy preoccupation with embryonic stem-cells, which have proven to be the least promising and the most problematic?

Could someone explain this to me? Why do I suspect it has a strong connection to the left's powerful abortion lobby?

Private investors aren't really even funding embryonic stem-cell research, since all of the success in fighting disease has come from research involving stem-cells other than embryonic.

Here is an ad made in response to the one made by Michael J. Fox.

http://tinyurl.com/yknyul

8:19 PM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Steele's campaign Web site released the following statement Tuesday to set the record straight on stem cell research:

"There is only one candidate in this race who voted against stem cell research and it’s Congressman Ben Cardin. Ben Cardin had a chance to support stem cell research that would not destroy human embryos, and he voted against it — not because of his beliefs on the issue, but as a transparent political stunt . . .


http://tinyurl.com/ybqtwt

8:28 PM  
Anonymous Temple said...

Rush Limbaugh; I think in my whole life I've listened for a grand total of eight minutes. That's how long it takes to ride the bull.

For whatever reason - probably just to make headlines like every other firebreather - he came out against Michael J. Fox pulling for embryonic stem cell research and Democrats. Now, Limbaugh didn't just "come out against" Fox's position. Fox, living with Parkinson's disease, is seen in the political commercial trembling badly, worse than most people remember, worse than in his latest public appearances.

Rush said Fox was likely acting. More particularly, he said, according to wire reports, He's moving all around and shaking, and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting.

Shameless. Color me stupid but I have to agree.

And call me culturally illiterate, too, if you like, but I'm thinking Fox, through many of his movie roles, and just because peolpe can detect he's one hell of a nice guy (and OK, his cute, small size probably doesn't hurt either), is very well liked.

As Teen Wolf, as McFly in Back to the Future films, and as young capitalist Alex P. Keaton in Family Ties, he's damn near one of the country's icons. Limbaugh is an icon of sorts, but his appeal isn't the same, nor is it as widespread.

He's only well-liked by people who agree with him. But pill-poppin', ACLU-supported, can't sustain-a-relationship (or an ????, uh, better not think about it) Rush Limbaugh never let a good hypocrisy get in the way of a better headline. Wait, I thought "the Mainstream Media" was the devil incarnant and more biased then a left turn?

Could Rush have met his Waterloo (or was that the drugs just being flushed with the water down the loo?). Or maybe he's off his meds AND acting.

(published at my Web site, but hey I thought of you David M.)

12:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First John Kerry and John Edwards were going to cure Christopher Reeve and make him walk again and now Claire McCaskill is going to cure Michael J. Fox. It amazes me how you donks can do all this curing without ever going to medical school. Or is this som esort of devine intervention? Keep up the abortion folks. The only thing it does is kill, not cure.

8:02 AM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

ME INCOHERENT LIBRULS BAD HA DISEASE FUNNY GARAGGGAAGGALLL...

8:41 AM  
Anonymous Widget said...

Unlike most of the people who commented on Rush and his remarks yesterday, I actually heard him.

I notice that there is no link to Rush's comments, although the taped program and the transcript are at his web-site and elsewhere.

Rush never said Fox was acting. He said that Fox admits in his book that he went off his meds for the Senate hearings in 1998, and that Fox was probably not on his meds for the taping of the ads.

Mark Levin also had a segment on Fox yesterday. Hurry, you're late in misquoting him, too.

8:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe JABBS has misquoted Rush at all.

9:24 AM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Temple said...
"Rush Limbaugh; I think in my whole life I've listened for a grand total of eight minutes."


Which is exactly why you and most libs have absolutely no clue as to what kind of a man Rush is.

In any case, the fact that you never listen to him in context, over time, is your own loss.

As for Rush's claim that Fox either didn't take his medication or was acting when he made that commercial, it would appear that Rush was, as is most often the case, quite correct.

11:14 AM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

As for Rush's claim that Fox either didn't take his medication or was acting when he made that commercial, it would appear that Rush was, as is most often the case, quite correct.

Where? How?? When?? He called it an act. Doctors have said Rush is nuts. But the statement remains beyond the pale.

12:44 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

I can't believe we're even debating the "well, he was/wasn't taking his meds" stuff, but here's the WaPo article on the issue. It remains, however, that it was a f***ed thing to say, as if he's some kind of doctor. Screw that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102400691.html

12:52 PM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

Rush Limbaugh is only interested in ratings. The only way he can get ratings is by saying things that are over-the-top.

The fact that there are knuckleheads who actually swallow his Kool-Aid is a nice benefit for Rush. As long as people listen to the ads, though, it doesn't matter whether Rush tells the truth or not.

12:58 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

I work in Medical Research and have encountered several Parkinson patients. I am not an expert on Parkinson. What limited knowledge I have is based upon my association with others that have a lot of knowledge about Parkinson.
I have seen patients in various stages of their developement with the disease and with patients that have been treated with various methods and drugs to control the disease. There is still a lot of information needed to improve the treatment of Parkinson. No two patients react the same way to the same treatment. Brain stimulation works to some acceptable degree for some patients, drugs work for some acceptable degree for others. I do not know the surgery history or the success level of drugs for Mr. Fox. But I do know that what works does not always work for 24hrs a day. There are intermittent episodes of the symptoms of Parkinson that still occur even with the best treatments. Situations (like stress) can trigger the symptoms at the most unexpected times. I have never seen a patient be able to "will" the symptoms!

Most successful research on any disease has taken a lot of time and a lot of money. Some take more time and money due to the nature of the disease(like any mutation of a gene which Parkinson is) and what it affects( the brain instead of the stomach or some other lesser important organ). Whether it is immediately life threatening or not influences the effort and the money spent. Cancer(most types), HIV and Heart diseases get a lot money and attention. Those diseases that just cause terrible symptoms and kill slowly ( many painfully)get less attention, like MS, Parkinson, Alzheimers, ALS, Kidney Failure, All types of muscular dystrophy, Drug addiction diseases(like the one Liebaugh has), diseases that cause blindness, etc. These latter disease have associations that try to raise more money for research and Michael J Fox is representing his interest in getting more money for research into Parkinson.

One way to be effective( which all medical associations do in their advertisements - not any different than what was done for the failed benefit of repukes in their effort to put front and center the idea of the "right to life" in the Teri Schiavo case) is to show a patient with the symptom to show people how bad the disease is or how it is manifested in patients. It would be less effective to show Mr Fox sitting there looking all normal to say he would like for more money spent on Parkinson research. There are many people that have no idea what people with parkinson disease goes through and many in the repuke community that do not give a damm, especially if it cost money to accomplish something with tax dollars as oppossed to wasting tax dollars on corporate wellfare and un-necessary wars that 99.9% of repukes will not fight in anyway( only be cheerleaders and "run" from - as opposed to the slogan "cut and run" which means they had to participate in to be able to "cut" from it because they understand the horrows and prevalent failures of war due to their experience)

I would guess that the video advertisement was made at a time when Michael J. Fox was having the most severe symptoms with or without medication to show the extreme symptoms of the disease for best effect. My guess is they also did not have to wait long for these symptoms to occur. I hope most of you know there is no cure for Parkinson and no matter what the treatment is, it gets worse and worse with age. These patients may not die from Parkinson directly, but they will surely die with Parkinsons!!

8:26 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

It doesn't matter, whoop. Rush is obviously a wonderful human being and it's "fair game" to question Fox's symptoms, because, after all, he's taking advantage of his disease, isn't he?

10:56 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

I suppose it's entirely possible that the Dems may have mislead Fox also. I don't know. Maybe he just believed them when they said that Talent wants to criminalize stem-cell research.

Just coming back to this, because it's so infuriating. Maybe it's also possible Fox is not a stupid person, and knows a bit more about this than a jerkoff like Rush Limbaugh. Maybe he's pretty well-versed on stem cell research as well, for that matter, and doesn't see himself as a "dupe." Either way, the idea that this is a legit line of discussion -- his symptoms, that is -- is just horseshit.

9:12 AM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

For the record, Rush was attacking Fox again yesterday, and saying that he was no longer apologizing for his statements on Turesday.

He is blissful in his ignorance.

10:40 AM  
Anonymous trinity said...

Dave G. said...
"Just coming back to this, because it's so infuriating. Maybe it's also possible Fox is not a stupid person, and knows a bit more about this than a jerkoff like Rush Limbaugh. Maybe he's pretty well-versed on stem cell research as well, for that matter, and doesn't see himself as a "dupe." "


I think I made it pretty clear that I was referring to the possibility that the Dems may have mislead Fox with regard to the candidates' voting records re: stem-cell research.

I didn't in any way suggest that Fox wasn't informed about Parkinsons, the disease. That would be rather ludicrous, don't you think, Strawman?

6:41 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

I think I made it pretty clear that I was referring to the possibility that the Dems may have mislead Fox with regard to the candidates' voting records re: stem-cell research.

Again, don't you think MJF is smart enough to figure this out on his own? This isn't Anna Nicole Smith we're talking about here.

7:38 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

With all of the success modern medicine is having with stem-cell research, what is this unhealthy preoccupation with embryonic stem-cells, which have proven to be the least promising and the most problematic?

The problem is that adult stem cells can only be used for treatment of cells that they derived from -- bone marrow cells for bone marrow, et al. Embryonic stem-cells have the ability to potentially develop into all kinds of other cells.

It's one thing if you see it as a moral issue - the destruction of an embryo = the destruction of life. I can understand that. I don't agree but understand. Rush's position was more to just try to knock this guy down a notch by going after his disease.

7:48 PM  

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