Thursday, September 28, 2006

When Did It Become Humorous For Conservatives To Threaten To Kill U.S. Journalists?

"Powder Puff Spooks Keith" screamed the headline on yesterday's "Page 6" of the conservative-friendly, Rupert Murdoch-owned New York Post.

Seems someone isn't too happy with Olbermann, host of MSNBC's Countdown and a frequent critic of the Bush Administration. Olbermann received a letter at his Manhattan home with a batch of white powder in it and a note saying it was payback for his on-air comments. An NYPD HazMat unit later determined the envelope contained soap powder.

"However, that wasn't enough to satisfy Olbermann, who insisted on a checkup. He asked to be taken to St. Luke's Hospital, where doctors looked him over and sent him home. Whether they gave him a lollipop on the way out isn't known," wrote the Post's Richard Johnson.

Haha. Olbermann gets a death threat from a conservative prankster, but because Olbermann is a) a journalist; and b) a liberal, that's funny stuff.

This has become the year for conservatives to actually propose -- apparently without any repercussions -- that U.S. journalists should be killed. Sadly, the response from the right to such open threats has been a case of the giggles.

In case you missed it:

-- In July, Ann Coulter admitted that she sent the New York Times an envelope with an X scrawled through it and a suspicious powder inside. The powder was later determined to be cornstarch."So glad to hear that the New York Times got my letter and that your friend at the Times thinks I'm funny," she e-mailed a journalist after the incident

.-- In June, Coulter told Fox News Channel's Alan Colmes that she stood behind her claim that Timothy McVeigh -- who was executed for his role in bombing a federal building in Oklahoma City -- should have instead bombed the New York Times office, especially if the reporters were inside.

-- Also in June, San Francisco conservative radio host and sometimes MSNBC political analyst Melanie Morgan wrote in an e-mail-based interview with The American Prospect: "However, the best solution that I can think of to deal with any newspaper editor, whether it's from the NY Times, LAT, WaPo, or the Wall Street Journal who is responsible for leaking national security classified information, is to be locked in a steel cage with the family members of slain troop members who would happily deliver the ultimate punishment of death."

What has happened to our country? When did it become humorous to threaten to kill a U.S. journalist?

And take it a step further: What if someone took these conservative yahoos seriously, and instead of sending cornstarch or soap powder, actually sent anthrax? What if instead of threating to blow up the New York Times, someone actually listened to these conservative yahoos and actually did it?

Would conservatives still laugh?


Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

Anonymous asked (in the Allen post below):

"The little piece above this one about Keith Oberman is interesting. The comment area isnt working so let me state something here. First I would like to know how it is that the person who runs this site knows that the perp is a conservative? Did the police make an arrest and that came out in the investigation? Hell, it could have been Alan Hevesi for all you know. NY State Comptroller Alan Hevesi did tell college grads Bush should be shot between the eyes. Didnt he?"

I think JABBS is making the assumption because Olbermann is a liberal broadcaster, and the threat included the note saying it was time for payback. Payback for what? All of Olbermann's quips on ESPN years ago?

I don't think it's far fetched to think that the person who threatened Olbermann is a conservative, and most likely a Bill O'Reilly fan. Heck, it might even be someone on O'Reilly's staff -- maybe one of the women he sexually harrassed.

10:27 AM  
Anonymous Charles said...

rob said..Alan Helesi did tell college grads Bush should be shot between the eyes.

Bet you libs thought that statement was humerous

11:27 AM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Anonymous is an idiot, of course. Charles, you're not far behind.

"NY State Comptroller Alan Hevesi did tell college grads Bush should be shot between the eyes. Didnt he?"

He told college grads that he heard Schumer say it, which qualifies as hearsay, which you were so quick to cite when bringing up George Allen.

Either way, I think we can all agree that it was a stupid, stupid remark. So what about this, conservatives? Wasn't this a stupid thing for the NYPost to write? Isn't what Coulter says about killing people - fellow Americans -- really really stupid? Shouldn't it all be condemned?

11:33 AM  
Anonymous Widget said...

Dave Gullible said - (Alan Hevesi)heard Schumer say it, which qualifies as hearsay, which you were so quick to cite when bringing up George Allen. -

And yet time and time again you libs fling mud on Allen and other conservatives based on heresay. No real sources are provided. You continue your hit and run accusations, even after proven wrong.

12:19 PM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

No real sources are provided.>>

bull. People are on the record talking about what Allen said or did. Multiple people. Allen simply saying "it's not true" makes it a he-said/he-said.

Tim Russert, on the record, read a bunch of things that Allen agreed were true. Rather than dismiss them, say they were false, say they were misconstrued, suggest they weren't racist, etc., Allen said that he was rebellious as a kid -- a kid of 25, 32 or 41!!!

That was his defense. He didn't know any better.

Your defense of Allen is that he said the charges are false. When false charges were made against Clinton in the 1990s -- funded by Richard Mellon Scaife -- you probably thought the charges were true. When charges were made against Gore and McCain in 2000, and Kerry in 2004, where did you stand? Did you assume the charges were true?

The fact-challenged hypocrisy of the fringe right is incredible.

12:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Davey G-String, before you start calling me an idiot, please look in the mirror you ass. And stop your fucking lying. This whole site is filled with lies and you are king attributor.

You said, "He told college grads that he heard Schumer say it, which qualifies as hearsay, which you were so quick to cite when bringing up George Allen."

Well once again you fucking schmuck you are wrong. Schumer didnt say it, Hevesi did. Google that asshole.

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Anonymous, let's try this again. Alan Hevesi said he thought this of Chuck Schumer.

"The man who, how do I phrase this diplomatically, who will put a bullet between the president's eyes if he could get away with it. The toughest senator, the best representative. A great, great member of the Congress of the United States."

There. That's the full quote. So yes, Hevesi said it, and said it about Schumer, not said that Schumer said it. So I was wrong there. My mistake.

But as I said before, it's a stupid, and despicable statement. Will conservatives repudiate similar statements -- which seem to be made multiple times -- from those on their side of the line? Or is that kind of discourse just OK and no big deal?

1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give me a for instance that you want repudiated. Like throwing Oreo cookies at a black Republican? Calling him an Uncle Tom? You mean those kids of things?

1:26 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Give me a for instance that you want repudiated. Like throwing Oreo cookies at a black Republican? Calling him an Uncle Tom? You mean those kids of things?

What are you talking about and where, man? Are you this thick-headed that you cannot understand that suggesting killing people ain't cool? I'm admitting as such, but you're not! Helloooo? Anyone in there?

1:48 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

Just want to put in some context, in case anonymous is going this way:

This is from a JABBS post from last year, regarding Ann Coulter accusing the NY Times of saying Clarence Thomas was an Uncle Tom. Check out how she plays with the facts to make an accusation:

in her book Slander, she wrote: "After Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas wrote an opinion contrary to the clearly expressed position of the New York Times editorial page, the Times responded with an editorial on Thomas titled 'The Youngest, Cruelest Justice.' That was actually the headline on a lead editorial in the Newspaper of Record. Thomas is not engaged on the substance of his judicial philosophy. He is called 'a colored lawn jockey for conservative white interests,' 'race traitor,' 'black snake,' 'chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom,' 'house Negro' and 'handkerchief head,' 'Benedict Arnold' and 'Judas Iscariot.'"

The paragraph makes it sound as though the New York Times was guilty of some horrible name-calling. But the Times never said any of those things.

As exhaustively researched by

Who actually called Thomas a “house Negro?” Royce Esters, little-known head of the Compton, California, NAACP, in 1991 (quoted in Emerge).

Who actually called Thomas “a colored lawn jockey for conservative white interests?” The Manchester Union-Leader attributed that insult to the (unnamed) head of the Maryland NAACP in early 1997. So did Perry Morgan, in the Norfolk Virginian-Pilot.

Who actually called Thomas a "chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom," and a “handkerchief head?” Spike Lee, 1991, quoted in U.S. News & World Report. “I think Malcolm X, if he were alive today, would call Thomas a handkerchief head, a chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom."

Who actually called Thomas a “black snake?” The claim has often been attributed to Thurgood Marshall, derived from the 1991 press conference at which the aging Marshall announced his retirement. He doesn't mention Thomas by name, but the conventional wisdom was that he was referring to Thomas, who was expected to be nominated.

MARSHALL: I mean for picking the wrong Negro and saying, "I'm picking him because he is a Negro." I am opposed to that. My dad told me way back that you can't use race. For example, there's no difference between a white snake and black snake; they'll both bite.

Who actually called Thomas a “race traitor?” In 1998, Thomas was called a “race traitor” by James Albrook in the New Pittsburgh Courier

2:19 PM  
Anonymous General Patton said...

It became humorous and necessary ever since the NY Times and its ilk became Al Queda's personal PR firm. For that Pinchy Sulzberg should be shot or at least pistol whipped ha, ha, ha?

4:39 PM  
Anonymous Dave G. said...

Shorter General Patton: I'm stupid! Isn't it funny! BWAAAH!

4:43 PM  

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