Saturday, August 19, 2006

Radio Clown Mark Levin Defends George Allen With Anger, Spin And Half-Truths

Radio clown Mark Levin offered a defense for Sen. George Allen at National Review's website -- a defense that probably says more about Levin than Allen.

You may recall that Allen, the Virginia Republican and possible 2008 presidential candidate, insulted a man of Indian descent who was tracking the Republican's re-election campaign for Democratic challenger Jim Webb.

Allen either called the man, S.R. Siddarth, a "macaca" -- a slur that literally means "a monkey,' but also can mean "shithead" -- or Macaque, a French slur used to describe North Africans. (Allen is of French Tunisian descent.)

Allen, who told the Associated Press that the name was "just made up," later offered a lame apology.

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Enter Levin, who in his Aug. 15 defense of Allen, offered a mix of anger -- his favorite emotion -- spin and half-truths:

LEVIN: Not one word about the Webb campaign's dirty trick in having one of its volunteers, camcorder in hand, harrassing Allen as he campaigns around Virginia. It's good that Allen has a mean streak, if in fact he does — enough compassionate conservatism. But I doubt his mean streak comes anywhere near McCain's. Allen has been an excellent senator, and he was an excellent governor — which gives us significant insight into how he would govern should he become president. Nothing about him suggests any kind of discriminatory instincts. Yes, the libs will blow this out of proportion. That's what libs do, as they sanctify Robert Byrd "the Conscience of the Senate" and tolerate all kinds of racism and anti-Semiticism (sic) from their ranks. Allen slipped and apologized.

Let's break it down:

-- "Webb campaign's dirty trick." It was a public speech, of course. But Washington Monthly reports that Allen has two people similarly tracking Webb.

-- "It's good that Allen has a mean streak." In other words, name-calling is a good thing?

-- "But I doubt his mean streak comes anywhere near McCain's." As JABBS has noted, Levin hates McCain -- because McCain had the gall to legislate a formal ban on the cruel or inhumane treatment of detainees in U.S. custody anywhere in the world -- and has vowed to prevent the Arizona Republican from receiving his party's 2008 presidential nomination.

-- "Nothing about him suggests any kind of discriminatory instincts." Except that Allen wore a Confederate flag pin for his high school yearbook photo, and displayed a Confederate flag and a noose in his law office. Given the symbolism, those decisions at the very least could be construed as "disciminatory instincts."

-- "Yes, the libs will blow this out of proportion." If Allen has a racist tendency -- a question that needs to be asked -- most Americans would not want him to be a Senator, let alone President.

-- "That's what libs do, as they sanctify Robert Byrd 'the Conscience of the Senate.'" I would never defend Byrd's decision to briefly join the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s. Of course, the same people who yell and scream at Byrd for what amounts to a single stupid decision more than 60 years ago excused Trent Lott when he made racially divisive comments on behalf of Strom Thurmond (who ran on a racially divisive platform during a 1948 presidential bid), or when folks like former President George Bush or former Senator Jesse Helms ran racially divisive advertisements during election season.

From where I stand, racism is wrong. It doesn't matter whether that racism is from a Democrat or a Republican. Levin is far more partisan in his beliefs.

(Note: non-conservative references to Byrd as the "Conscience of the Senate" appear to be in reference to his longevity in the body, and his knowledge of things like Robert's Rules of Order, rather than suggesting that Byrd best represents the ideal Senator.)

-- "... and tolerate all kinds of racism and anti-Semiticism (sic) from their ranks." Just fact-challenged spin.

-- "Allen slipped and apologized." Half-heartedly, at best.

62 Comments:

Anonymous Big Bertha said...

Thanks, Jabbs, for another excellent piece on Mark Levin.

I have never been a fan of Levin, and check technorati regularly in the hope that more political writers will expose him for what he is -- a loser with a microphone.

You're as good as anyone out there in highlighting his anti-American, anti-free speech, anti-freedom to believe what you want rants.

Good job, and keep it up.

11:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

agreed. i don't understand how anyone can listen to levin or michael savage. all tehy do is spew hatred and divisiveness. what they consider patriotism I would call xenophobia.

1:22 AM  
Anonymous katy said...

lately i've seen many lists of republican-isms -- does anyone know of a list of RACIST/BIGOTTED REMARKS and the speaker? "Racist Quotes" ! it's a hit !!!

12:47 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

JABBS, you're playing with fire. You're tossing red meat to Trinity and his blogging buddies.

Don't say I didn't warn you if you suddenly have 100 angry comments.

5:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know, it's a shame that you all feel that way. You should pick up the latest issue of Teen Trend Magazine, located at www.teentrendmagazine.com, to read a bit more about Mark. Maybe you'll actually LIKE the guy...

5:57 PM  
Blogger ThankMe said...

Um, "cutiepie" johnson, Trinity is a girl!

Thank me!

8:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah Jabbs, you really nailed him!

I can't stand that Levine, he's always saying how we should defend this shitty country! Can you believe that? I don't think we should fight the terrorists. It just makes them madder at us. If we give them food, they will leave us alone. We can't afford another 9/11 so we must surrender and make nice with BinLaden right away.

8:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way for us to succeed is by a strict policy of restraint! Indeed, by restraining ourselves in our reactions against terrorists, we can therefore properly restrain terrorists from attacking us! Many people say that we must stop Iran from developing nuclear weaponry...well, once again by stopping ourselves from dealing with terrorists, we can then proceed to stop Iran. This demonstrates consistency in world of international opinion.

8:58 PM  
Anonymous Clinton Happens said...

I wish my man was back Mr. B. J. Clinton XOXOXOX!!

9:09 PM  
Anonymous Pinocia said...

No, Anonymous, (8:47 PM) think about what you said, "feed them" You know what happens when you feed stray dogs or cats they stay around, Now in this instant we want them to stay at home in their comfy caves. So Please dont feed them. However we could put salt on their tails and tame them. That always works with birds.

9:32 PM  
Anonymous weinernation said...

katy said...
lately i've seen many lists of republican-isms -- does anyone know of a list of RACIST/BIGOTTED REMARKS and the speaker? "Racist Quotes" ! it's a hit !!!


Katy you will never believe what I found! I cannot believe that these racist politicians would have the audacity to say such things in public! Here they are in their own words! See if you can recognize the voices.
http://members.cox.net/yahoogroups/racists.wma

10:03 PM  
Blogger ThankMe said...

Hey Davy, a year ago, Mark Levin was on only one station. Now, he's on almost 50 stations! Most of them are in the largest markets, too! Soon, the whole country will be able to hear him!

Thank Me!

10:42 PM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

Trinity is a girl?

12:37 AM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

I can't stand that Levine, he's always saying how we should defend this shitty country! >>

Anonymous, what does that have to do with the JABBS post?

It's a farce to think that liberals don't want to defend the country, or that liberals believe in "cutting and running," or that liberals are un-American.

If that's the extent of your ability to debate, then you're helpless.

Stick to the post, and try to defend Levin's half-truths. Join him in defending a slur which Levin might not find offensive, but Siddarth and a whole lot of other people do.

Most telling is Levin praising Allen's "mean streak." Is that what we want -- leaders who are congratulated for name calling? What are we, a bunch of 3rd graders?

I know it's a lot easier to just throw out a lot of shit -- say that liberals are un-American and hahaha aren't liberals a bunch of losers. It's a lot more difficult to actually present a coherent argument and be able to defend it with facts.

12:41 AM  
Anonymous Angelina's Evil Twin said...

Why bother arguing with those drinking the LEVIN KOOL AID?

The post is about Levin defending a RACIST COMMENT BY A U.S. SENATOR. It has nothing to do with Bush, Clinton, national security, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Israel, liberalism, etc.

But Levin supporters can't handle things like FACTS or even, it seems, READING COMPREHENSION. All they can do is act like a bunch of cave men (and cave girls) and say things like CLINTON BAD, or LIBERALS WEAK, or BLOG COMMIE.

It's just so STUPID. But in a way it makes sense, right? Levin RAGES WITH FACTLESS ANGER, so of course, HIS LISTENERS DO, TOO.

1:54 AM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

I do not listen to any conservative radio program like Mark Levin, Russ Liebaugh, Sean Hannity or any of their wana-bees. I do read some conservative blogs and 99% of time do not agree with the material. What I detect lately ( within the last 13 years at least)is that Republican Party has concentrated on paying the Demcrats back for the Nixon( who I voted for twice and now deeply regret) debacle. It started very slowly and has reached a high pitch and getting worse everyday. What amases me is the # of people that are jumping on their bandwagon and getting rich being some of the most hatefull people I have ever known. What is even the most amasing thing is that the so called "Christian Right" using God(Jesus) as their ally do not speak out against the inflamatory rehetoric of these mouth pieces of the Republican Party.
To me the Republican Party is using the ideas of a book I read many years ago titled "The Games People Play", which had themes like "I'm ok but your not ok" instead of "I'm ok and your ok". Playing "I'm ok but your not ok" causes you to do everything you can to tear down another person to build yourself up, like name calling, projecting un-acceptable behavior onto others - akin to calling an American un-patriotic, proclaiming to be a christian but not living like one ( like the previous article about Senator Allen). The problem with playing games with people is they eventually become aware of it and rebel or they go along to get along.

To Thank me - You said that Trinity was a female. I agree the Trinity poster said she is a grandma in one of her post. But you never really know who is who on the replies. We do know who David is more than we know who anyone else is. It can be inferred by my post that I am a male (I AM ) because in some replies I have said something about my wife being a retired school teacher. It can also be inferred that I have served my country in the Army from Jan 1969 to Jan 1971 because I have said it many times in previous post. It is also obvious that I love America, am a PROUD AMERICAN and I do not agree with the current administration ( the "King" and his court)

4:06 AM  
Blogger Libs Lie said...

Instead of sitting by your computer, attacking a man who is a hell of a lot smarter than all you little libbies, why don't you grow a pair of balls and call into his show and debate the man on the issues. I am sure not one of you has the guts or the fortitude to do it. You are all a bunch of cowards who attack, smear and the run off and hide. Just like the terrorists that our brave military are fighting. They too hide behind women and children after picking a fight. But then again, libs never were one for a fight. You all are a bunch of pussies who would rather surrender.

8:57 AM  
Blogger ThankMe said...

Here's some more Mark Levin quotes:

Against the Patriot Act.
Against intercepting enemy communications.
Against finding out what phone numbers the enemy uses.
Against finding out the financial activities of the enemy.
That’s the modern Democrat Party!
Vote Republican!


Thank Me!

9:04 AM  
Blogger Libs Lie said...

Um Thank Me, you seem to be a very educated person, unlike the lib trolls on this site. Tell me, have we ever met before?

9:18 AM  
Blogger ThankMe said...

Libs Lie,

Have we ever met, you ask. Possibly! I meet regular Americans like you all the time! It’s the weasel Libs I try to avoid!

Thank Me!

9:28 AM  
Blogger Libs Lie said...

Macaca, Macaca, Macaca. Are you all that afraid of George Allan that you have to go after a word he used that sounds like something a child did in its diaper? And Angelina, the only Kool Aid that is being consumed is by those who are listening to what AirHead Amerika is saying.

9:38 AM  
Blogger Libs Lie said...

"Allen wore a Confederate flag pin for his high school yearbook photo, and displayed a Confederate flag and a noose in his law office." Well at least he wasn't wearing the white robe and hood. Yet if he wanted to I am sure Robert KKK Byrd can lend him some of his own. Well then again maybe not because Byrd is a little troll who actually is a racist and Allen is quite a big man who has yet to be proven a racist.

10:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did someone bring up Air Amerikka?

THE BELL TOLLS FOR AIR AMERICA

MRC President Notes Major Media Ignoring Failure of Liberal Radio Station


Alexandria, VA-Air America, the liberal alternative to conservative talk radio, is moving from WLIB (1190AM) in New York to the even smaller and weaker station WWRL (1600AM), making it harder for the low-ratings program to be heard. Brent Bozell, founder and president of the Media Research
Center, issued the following statement about Air America's imminent collapse:


"Air America's failure is further proof that liberalism does not sell in the marketplace," Bozell said. "Failure in New York City - the epicenter of intellectual liberalism - means, to paraphrase Frank Sinatra, if you can't make it there you can't make it anywhere."


"If this had been Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity, the liberal media
would be salivating at a conservative's demise. Instead, they remain silent as Al Franken and his flagship station sink into nothingness."

"For whom does the bell toll? It tolls for Air America," he concluded.
http://www.mrc.org/press/2006/press20060803.asp

10:06 AM  
Blogger Libs Lie said...

Clean up you own house first.

http://members.tripod.com/~GOPcapitalist/democratrecord.html

10:15 AM  
Anonymous liberalism IS treason said...

And I don't think I have yet heard a conservative threaten the life of a sitting President....nor of any sitting government official. I haven't heard conservatives call for any stonings, shootings, or torture, unlike the left.

10:54 AM  
Blogger Libs Lie said...

rob of wilmington says...What are we, a bunch of 3rd graders? From the looks of this site I would have to say most of you are. The very top of this blob starts off with the name calling. And how do any of you know what George Allen was thinking when he said it?

11:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rob of wilmington, del. said...

Anonymous, what does that have to do with the JABBS post?

It's a farce to think that liberals don't want to defend the country, or that liberals believe in "cutting and running," or that liberals are un-American.

If that's the extent of your ability to debate, then you're helpless.


My therapist says I'm right and that you are one of those jerks that voted for Bush and think this country is worth defending! Admit it!

How dare you judge me! Are you one of those bible thumpers? I'll bet you're a plant from Bush's CIA.

I was talking about Levine, that's what the post was about. I know what you're doing! Your one of them!

The Daily Kos told me how to identify people like you! You should stop hiding behind your fake facade and join the rest of us progressives while we destroy Bush's America!

12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rob of wilmington, del. said...

Anonymous, what does that have to do with the JABBS post?

It's a farce to think that liberals don't want to defend the country, or that liberals believe in "cutting and running," or that liberals are un-American.

If that's the extent of your ability to debate, then you're helpless.


My therapist says I'm right and that you are one of those jerks that voted for Bush and think this country is worth defending! Admit it!

How dare you judge me! Are you one of those bible thumpers? I'll bet you're a plant from Bush's CIA.

I was talking about Levine, that's what the post was about. I know what you're doing! Your one of them!

The Daily Kos told me how to identify people like you! You should stop hiding behind your fake facade and join the rest of us progressives while we destroy Bush's America!

12:17 PM  
Blogger ChefAJ said...

You dopes can even get the guy's name correct. It's Mark Levin!

12:53 PM  
Blogger Libs Lie said...

chefaj:
These dopes get the Great One confussed with this thing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-levine/beiruts-new-geography-h_b_27114.html

12:59 PM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

So, as "Cutiepie" predicted, you have a bunch of Mark Levin fans come over here, not to debate the post, not to defend Levin's points, but to throw up a bunch of crap.

Name calling. Hyperbole. Gross stereotyping. This is all these people are capable of.

It's a shame, really, because a debate on the issue at hand might actually be worthwhile.

I guess these Mark Levin fans' brains are too weak to handle that chore, though.

1:02 PM  
Blogger Libs Lie said...

rob
There is nothing to debate other than the fact that this is a non-issue. The only reason you libs bring it up is because George Allen scares you. He will be the next President and her thighness will be back in NY doing what she does best in the Senate, which is nothing. But it sure is fun here in looney land.

1:07 PM  
Blogger ChefAJ said...

You are all sooo amazing! Wasting your precious time bashing Mark Levin. Mark Levin is the most respectable man on the airwaves. Just take off your ipods and listen to him for an hour. You'll see. Your rap music will wait for you (I promise).

Someone made a post up above about feeding the terrorists to make them go away. Are you insane?? How about blowing them to bits? I defend President Bush in conversations all the time. However, I have really big problems with his administration; they are not doing enough!!! We must go in there and clear out all the rat holes, and there are many. These terrorists are not like us--they are completely irrational! They must be stopped immediately. We must never forget what happened on 9-11. It was pure evil. It cannot be excused. We must stop them in their tracks. They are the enemy!

Have a lovely day. -Chef

1:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"JABBS articles can also be read at Blogcritics, Democratic Underground, and Bring It On!"

Democratic Blunderground? LMAO! Now I am impressed. Keep up the good work, maybe they'll let you in over at Daily Chaos(Kos).

1:55 PM  
Anonymous pinocia said...

I checked out the website for that Mark Levin guy you are all posting about. He said that the Iranians were going to make Nuclear weapons ands kill us all. That's scary. At school they say that Moslems are peaceful and would not hurt anyone and that George Bush and the Jews and the C hristians are the o nes who want war. But The US military dont have nuclear weapons, the US is not building any, the Jews only fight in the Middle East and the Christians havent had a Crusade since the Middle Ages. (And then only against the Moslems) So, what is Jihad?

2:08 PM  
Blogger ThankMe said...

By the way, where does the name JABBS come from, anyway? Does it come from jabberwocky?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabberwocky

"The word jabberwocky itself is sometimes used to refer to nonsense language."

Well, that would explain it!

Thank Me!

2:29 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

To Lib Lies -- If you think Liberals are a bunch of Pussies, then answer this question. Why if over 59,300,000 voted for Bush in 2004 to say they supported his war in Iraq( war on "Terrorism")have so few of you brave pussies enlisted in the military to put into action your "Chicken Hawk" rhetoric????? If only a measly ( TINY) 1% of you pussies were to enlist, that would have been more than 590,000 more troops. Hell it has not even been .1% of you "Chicken Hawks" enlisting (59,300 plus). It is obivious to the world who the real Pussies ("Chicken Hawks" are, which is why the 'terrorist' are so bolden. I know your real excuse is your back trouble, a BIG YELLOW STREEK DOWN THE MIDDLE!!!!

2:56 PM  
Blogger ChefAJ said...

I must question why whhop4467 refers to World War 3 as "his" war, referring to President Bush. Over 2,000 innocent Americans and others were savagely attacked on 9-11. I believe it is "their" war. It is also the war of the rest of us who were fortunate not to be on Wall Street on that day. That would make it "our" war. The terrorists want us all dead. This is not a war about the current and abominable past administrations. We must unite and conquer!! Do you live under a rock, sir?

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Jemimah said...

Pinocia Honey, You asked what Jihad is, Well its something real bad baby. You dont want to get mixed up with those folk, They are mean. I shiver when I realize that sweet young people like you and my own boy in High School are in such mortal danger from evil people that want to kill you just cause you are not Islamic. Yes baby thats true. Im a Democrat and I voted for President Clinton but I'm sorry now They say he could have stopped all this instead he made friends with the Moslems. Everyone knows you dont make friends with no devils Thats what they are just devils. Tomorrow is the day they plan to kill us all and its president Clintons fault

7:12 PM  
Anonymous Clinton Happens said...

BJ where are you ..... :( :( :( I'm aching for you !!!

10:18 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

To Chefaj _ I said Bush's war because he and Chaney decided to invade Iraq to get their OIL. They duped you and millions of people into believing a lot of lies. It was not a war of necessity but of pure choice based upon greed and to get control of Iraq's Oil fields for his big Republican donors( the OIL Industry). You can Rant,Rave, cuss me, call me names, but you can not show me facts that prove otherwise. There was no Iraqey connection to 911, terrorism against the U.S. ( I agree that Saddam was paying Palestinian Militants' families $25,000 to kill jews - but no Americans), and no connection to Al Quiada. The WMD story was bogus too and all you have to do is read on the internet and you will find many entries to suport this statement. There are several books you can read but ones that come to mind are:
1. "American Theocracy" by Kevin Philips
2. "Cobra II" by Bernard Trainor and one other author.
3. "Fiasco" by someone whose name escapes me.
4. "Worse than Watergate" by John Dean.
My reply was to "Libs Lie" who said Democrats were Pussies. I gave facts that showed Repuks who support the war in Iraq by their vote in 2004 are not enlisting in the military and to show the rhetoric that I read on these post are just boastfull words. If you really believe it is "our" war then why aren't you encouraging your fellow Repuks to enlist instead of giving me a lecture about how dangerous things are. I served my country during the Vietnam war. I love this country as well as any Repuke on these post. I fully understand how bad some people want to kill us. I lived through the scares of past generations of other people that wanted to kill us. I do not like being lied to, I do not like 911 being used as an albatross to consolidate power into one party, and I do not like people talking about what Democrats think by using their GUT Feelings.

2:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To whoop4467
Your illogical thinking really amazes me. It doesnt surprise me, it amazes me. To think, someone who actually has the ability to stand up straight, yet they cant seem to think straight. Well I guess that is because your brain is so fogged over with uneducated liberal thoughts. Here is my answer and I am going to type it slow so you can understand it. We conservatives love our military. We conservatives support our military, even when they are thrown into some half-assed wars. Please see Bill Clintons resume for those wars. Now it is indeed true that 59,300,000 people voted for President Bush and I am quite amazed that you were able to figure out what 1% of that is. Did you do that all by yourself, or did someone help you? So in your world, a man like me, unlike the girlie men in the liberal world, cannot support the troops because I havent served. That little calling card of yours is getting played out, just like “Hell No We Wont Go.” Well let me tell you something you little twerp, I enlisted into the USMC back in 1983, because in the 80’s our citizens were being held against their will in Grenada and I saw what our Marine Corp meant. It meant that you help the weaker individual. You help those who cant help themselves. Only problem is I never got to fulfill my dream due to sustaining injuries prior to boot camp. Yet I do hold my beloved military in the highest regard. Unlike you libs who long for the day when you can spit in their faces again. Now you uneducated piece of human excrement, please explain to me how is it that you are going to get men and women who are not young enough to endure the rigors of the military, to enlist. Or is that your plan all along, because we conservatives know you do indeed want us to lose this war.

8:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another dumb calling card. War for Oil. If that were indeed true why are prices still so high? And where are all these new refineries for all this new oil?

8:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoop. Ignore these delusional empty-skulled conservative drones/fact-starved Levin Bushie parrots who are talking up such ridiculous nonsense here that thier own children must not take them seriously -- or their pets for that matter.

3:08 PM  
Anonymous Clinton Happens said...

BJ ... I bought Monica's blue dress on EBAY ;) ;) ... I'm wearing it, just for you :) :) :) !!!!

4:34 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

To Anonymous that questioned my support of the troops and called me a little twerp and questioned my math skills. Another Anonymouas suggested that I should ignore you and that was good advice. But, as I have said many times, the first Anonymous is using the typical Repuke response; he uses name calling and his opinion of me because he is judging me based upon his Gut feelings and not facts. The math facts in my post was my own abilty. I have two degrees and one is Math/Physics and it is the degree that I make my living. I work in the Medical Field and I teach a Physics class at a local college.
As far as my support for troops, I do that too. I have made a contribution to Opertion-Helmut and I have donated telephone minutes from my phone card. Now I have supported the death of 2611 troops. So I ask you: How many troops have to die before my support of the troops is enough.
I have heard many reasons why Repuks can not enlist:
1. too old - the age limit now is 42
2. They want to enlist really bad but they have a family to support - I have no problem with this because I think family is very important.
3. They are too young - a very good reason
4 They exceed the weight limit for their age, sex, and height - but with a true desire this can be overcome especially if they are a BIG TWERP.
5. They have already served a sufficient # of years.
6. They make a lot of money and do not want to lose income which is more important than serving your country because they pay some taxes to support the troops.
7. They have a disability which is definately a very good reason.
8. They have an illness (can be mental) that keeps them from serving.
9. They have a permanent back problem - a yellow streek down the middle.
There are approximately 300 Million citizens in the U.S. and I know you would probably say over 50% ( over 150 Million) are Repuks. So again, I will ask you what % of this 150 Million is a good % to show that the Repuks really mean they support the troops and this war on "terrorism" or how many are going to use excuses 1-9. If 1%( now we are talking about 150 million that routinely say they are the only patriotic group in America - I hear over and over and over and over that Liberals aren't)is good that would be another 1500000 more troops instead of the 590,000 ( 1% of those voting for Bush). So, you see it is really worse than I wrote in the original post that you did not like.
I will tell you when my son graduted from college in 2004 with his two degrees he wanted to enlist. I talked him out of it for the simple reason I did not want him going to fight a war and possibly die in a war on "terrorism" when the supposedly most patriotic Americans amongst us want even enlist. Then your kind has the audacity to sit at the comfort of you computer and call Liberals un-patriotic.
After 911 all American citizens were riding in the same car with GWB and heading in the same direction. But he later decided to drive down a different road and basically told aproximately 1/2 of the passengers to shut up when they questioned him about what direction he was going. And he is still driving "the same course". I give credit to Jon Stewart for this last idea.

2:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clinton Happens ...

did you also buy the Nixon tapes on eBay?

did you also buy videos of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein?

those things are about as important to reference as Monica Lewinsky. Bush has been president for six years, dumbass.

2:22 AM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

thankme, at the risk of having you tee off, JABBS originally stood for Journalists Against Bush's B.S.

The acronym was a play on words, I think, jabbing those who deserved it.

At some point, the site's name was changed. Don't know why.

2:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Whoop, only Republicans are suppose to join the military? You proving my point that Demonrats dont have the will to fight the good fight

9:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoop, why do you blowhard libs always feel the need to give out your resume. It doesnt impress anyone. Just makes you sound like a self-indulging clown.

9:34 AM  
Blogger thewaronterrible said...

You Repukes fault "Liberals" for not having the authority to make substantiated right-wing criticisms, then you fault them for providing that authority as Whoop4467 has done.
Here's a conservative Bushie trait.
Off-the-cuff statements from an ulcerated gut lacking any context.

9:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A LIBERAL LIE: I support the military- It has been well documented that when it comes to voting for military funding- liberals would much rather spend money on social programs. First you must understand lib rational. Approximately 10% of the population in the United States is poor, which is about 30 million Americans. There are approximately one million Americans serving in the military. If only 1 in 5 of the poor vote, that equals about six million votes as compared to one million votes from the military. There are two relevant questions here. What percent of the poor vote Republican? How close was the 2000 Presidential Election? This leads directly to the answer of why would liberals rather appropriate money to social programs than to the defense of our country. Please note, the defense of our country is a primary, if not the primary responsibility of our government. If we don't protect the country, we may not have a country or our freedoms

10:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey thewaronterrible
This conservative doesnt fault liberals for not having the authority to make substantiated right-wing criticisms. I fault you all for being to stupid to realize its a War on Terror. There are those in your party that doesnt even have the balls to call Hezbollah a terrorists group. Wouldnt want to upset your friends now would ya.

1:27 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

To the Anonymous Repuks - I have the will to fight. I served my country in the Army during Vietnam days. So I still am waiting for other reasons that I am not a patriotic American. I will say it again: I and all Democrats,liberals, left wingers, and independents understand that there are people in the world that want to destroy us, all of us. You guys are so blinded by your hatred of everyone that does not agree with your political thinking that you you can see the forest for the trees. Your deep hatred toward other Americans is exactly one of the goals of the "terrorist" and your non-English speaking KING GEORGE is the leader of the effort. The "terrorist " (Al Qiaida, OBL) have several goals and they knew that if Repuks came to power it would be easy to implement due to Repuks' greater love for power than their love for the country:
1. Cause a deep hatred amongst American citizens and its allies. Accomplished.
2. They knew repuks would not enlist in the military to support their country and that other citizens would not as well due to festerd hatred in #1 and those in power not enlisting. Accomplished. Enlistment is way down and now reservist are being re-called.
3. They could spend $10,000 or less while causing freedom loving countries to spend (waste) trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars pretending to protect their asses , therefore breaking their bank. Getting there by the minute.
4. Cause the freedom loving countries to give up many of the freedoms that make them great and push them back to dark ages. Being acomplished day by day.
5. Give up all eforts to improve the education system and lean more toward religious solutions to meaning of life. Accomplished.
6. Wait patiently while steps 1-5 takes it toll. Accomplished by the second.

I probably missed a few others. So, you now know that I understand that there is a "war on terror". Our difference is the way we fight the "war on terror".
I would protect our borders, our ports, our transportation systems, our electric distribution systems, our water supply system,our education system, our health care system and our voting system instead of throwing our money away by tax breaks to the wealthy and by throwing it down the endless hole in Iraq.

4:20 PM  
Anonymous whoop4467 said...

to repuks from last post, I meant "you can not see the forest for the trees"!!!

7:35 PM  
Anonymous Liberalism is Treason! said...

whoop4467 puked...
To the Anonymous Repuks - I have the will to fight. I served my country in the Army during Vietnam days. So I still am waiting for other reasons that I am not a patriotic American.


Why do you support the same types of people who spit on you and called you a baby killer?

Why do you support the same kind of people that undermined the Vietnam war as they are undermining the Iraq war today?


whoop4467 puked... So, you now know that I understand that there is a "war on terror". Our difference is the way we fight the "war on terror".

And how is that? Surrender?
If you think for one minute that these panty wearing liberals are going to protect this country, you probably have been exposed to too much Agent Orange!"

Undermining The Commander in-Chief is no way to show that you are a patriot. I thank you, John Kerry, John Murtha, John McCain and all other for your service to this country. In the present tense, you treasonous scumbags can kiss my pro-american ass!

STOP GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY!

10:08 PM  
Anonymous Liberalism is Treason! said...

One more thing Agent Orange...

If there are more libs serving in the military, why the hell did the democRATS try to disenfranchise them in the 2000 election? I didn't think libs would vote for Bush!

Your more full of shit than a Christmas goose!

10:45 PM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

To the poster above, you have your facts wrong.

Democrats didn't try to disenfranchise the military in 2000. Democrats tried to follow the rules, which say that a ballot coming from overseas must be postmarked by the day of the election. The Republicans successfully guilted the Democrats into allowing several hundred absentee ballots that were clearly postmarked one to four days after the election.

Just like the lie James Baker told ("How many times are we going to have to count these ballots" -- when in facts the ballots in Florida were never properly recounted, in accordance with state law), the myth of the disenfranchised military voters lives on in the conservative noise machine, facts be damned.

Essentially, you are complaining because Democrats wanted to follow the law -- an attempt that failed because of Republican misinformation at the time.

12:32 AM  
Anonymous rob of wilmington, del. said...

Responding to thankme (way up above), your facts are wrong:

Here's some more Mark Levin quotes:

Against the Patriot Act. >> this is not true. Go look up the congressional record, and you'll see that Democrats overwhelmingly voted for the Patriot Act. The party was split when the Patriot Act was up for renewal, because some Democrats wanted to have checks and balances for certain provisions of the law. Some Republicans agreed with this (you call them RINOs). But it's flat out wrong by Levin or his followers to suggest that Democrats opposed/oppose the Patriot Act.

Against intercepting enemy communications.>> Again, not true. Democrats believe in following the FISA law. Levin doesn't think FISA is constitutional, and that's an argument to be debated. But Democrats believe that as long as the law is being followed, there's no problem.

JABBS actually called Levin on this, and if you go in the archives you can find the article. But the question he asked Levin was, if Bush was right about being allowed to skip FISA, why did the Bush Administration back Mike DeWine's proposed legislation giving the administration the right to skip FISA? It's a conundrum that Levin couldn't answer.

Against finding out what phone numbers the enemy uses.>> This is a continuation of the above. If the Bush Administration followed existing law -- or had Congress amend existing law -- then no problems. Democrats aren't against the concept, just the way the Bush Administration went about it.

Against finding out the financial activities of the enemy.>> Same as above.

>>

Levin has said that during war time, the executive branch has essentially unlimited power. Others, including quite a few Republicans, disagree with this. Most Americans believe in a checks and balances. The courts have also said as much, defending FISA.

When the first Patriot Act was passed and Bush had broad bipartisan support, he should have had FISA amended or weakened. He chose not to. You can look up testimony from Alberto Gonzales, which shows that on three occasions, the Justice Department discussed with the Republican Congressional leadership the idea of creating a law to weaken FISA, but chose not to proceed.

Instead, Gonzales advised Bush that it was ok to go forward on a variety of things without going through FISA court. That decision has been found to be unconstitutional, and will likely be appealed by the administration all the way to the Supreme Court.

thankme, I know it's a lot easier to toss out a few fact-challenged catch-phrases. It's comforting, I'm sure, to think that liberals are evil, terrorist-loving know-nothings. Unfortunately, all you have at the end of the day are a bunch of fact-challenged catch-phrases that 70% of the country knows aren't true.

If you'd like to have a real discussion, go ahead. Defend Levin on the JABBS post above, or even on this unrelated topic.

But when you reduce yourself to juvenile name-calling and simplistic hyperbolic phrases, you don't strengthen your argument. You just make it clear that you don't know what you're talking about.

12:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rob, the sad thing is that thankme wasn't even being original. just a cut and paste from the marklevinfan site, apparently.

3:29 AM  
Anonymous We Killed The Patriot Act! said...

Rob puked... Essentially, you are complaining because Democrats wanted to follow the law -- an attempt that failed because of Republican misinformation at the time... Democrats tried to follow the rules

Since when do democRATS follow the rules? You mean when AlGore went to the courts to change the rules in the middle of the 2000 election? What's a crock!

The ballots were intentionally sent out late, as they were once again in the CT democRAT primary. (Can't blame that one on the Republicans!)

It is obvious that the democRATS wanted to make sure the military didn't vote because they were voting Bush!

Great way to show how much the democRATS value the service of our brave young men and women! And you say that the democRATS support the troops. SHAME!


Rob spewed further... Against the Patriot Act. >> this is not true. Go look up the congressional record, and you'll see that Democrats overwhelmingly voted for the Patriot Act.

Yes, that's probably why your "leader" Harry Reid boasted to the press, "WE KILLED THE PARTIOT ACT!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBP91gvs8wI

10:13 AM  
Anonymous liberalism IS treason said...

We Killed The Patriot Act!...don't forget, Algore tried to block the Military vote as well. Then the New Jersey fiasco to put the Laut on the ballot AFTER the deadline.

The word "rules" is NOT in the libtard vocabulary.

6:00 PM  

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