Monday, October 10, 2005

Bush May Veto Defense Bill To Deny McCain Amendment Banning "Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading" Treatment Of Military Prisoners

In nearly five years in office, President Bush has not vetoed a single piece of legislation his Republican-led Congress has supported.

But the White House is threatening to veto the Senate's $440.5 billion 2006 Defense spending bill because it includes an amendment that would mandate uniform standards for the treatment of military detainees. The provision, which passed 90-9, was authored by John McCain (R-AZ).

A Seattle Times editorial wrote that the amendment "to ban 'cruel, inhuman or degrading' treatment of prisoners by the military found a clarity of purpose and voice that eludes the Bush administration."

The Boston Globe, in its editorial, wrote: "Instead of threatening to veto the measure, as his staff has done, President Bush should embrace it as evidence that the military will correct abuses and hold itself to a high standard."

A veto by Bush would almost certainly be symbolic, because the Senate has the votes to override it.

And what a symbol it would be.


Anonymous Lex said...

I *so* hope Bush vetoes it . . . and I *so* hope the Senate overrides his sorry ass.

12:56 AM  
Anonymous Eric J in MN said...

In Conference Committee, the House leadership will probably put in a loophole to make the amendement meaningless.

Then Bush will have no reason to veto the bill.

12:57 AM  
Anonymous whirlygigspin said...

This will look great in the history books

The Texacutionner's only veto is about torture.

12:57 AM  
Anonymous DaveT said...

It will be called a compromise and Bush will sign it to save face.

On the other hand, if the Senate conferees can hold their ground, there is a huge political push behind getting the Pentagon bill passed -- and Bush's threat to veto the bill will be a HUGE political liability.

I'm not talking about the anti-war majority -- I'm talking about the arms contractors who want their damn money.

Bush is in some real political trouble now, and stubbornness on the issue of torture will cost him big time. He cannot afford a showdown with McCain on this topic.

I doubt that McCain will press his advantage all the way to humiliate Bush, but I have hopes.

1:02 AM  
Anonymous opihimoimoi said...


What is the matter with his Brain?

Don't he know our troops get captured too....He should ask John McCain all about it.

8:45 AM  
Anonymous alias: "cutiepie" johnson said...

Bush allowed his men on the ground in South Carolina to suggest McCain was a Manchurian candidate (while also claiming that the McCain's adopted girl from Bangladesh was a love child with a black NYC prostitute).

McCain, for the sake of his own presidential future, looked the other way and allowed himself to be used during the 2004 presidential race as a prop to be kissed on the forehead. McCain lost a lot of respect from the left side of the aisle by temporarily being a Bush apologist last year.

Now, once again, we see that McCain and Bush don't see eye to eye. (And this is just one of several issues). McCain may not be a liberal, but he is an independent voice in the Republican Party, and that's why some liberals hold him in high regard.)

8:48 AM  
Anonymous xkenx said...

Yes, McCain Sometimes Follows An Independent Path, but we shouldn't lose sight of him being a CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN. Occasionally contradicting the radicals on the right doesn't qualify him for our support. I lost all respect for the man when when he became Bush's Bitch. He regularly takes sneaky cheap shots at Dems. under the guise of seeming to be neutral.

12:46 PM  
Anonymous No Exit said...

He couldn't care less about our troops--he is anti-veteran, which is not surprising when one considers how lightly he took his own obligations when he was allegedly a member of the service himself.

12:47 PM  
Anonymous zanne said...

I don't know why this isn't getting more attention in the media; especially on the air, which is where most people get their news. It's as though the abuses at AbuGhraib never happened. The media is disregarding this. (Maybe they want it to go away).

12:47 PM  
Blogger Michael said...

As a Democrat I urge everyone to contact the White House and demand that Chimpy veto this bill. If they won't listen to you just say you're a born-again, evangelical, Saudi nationalist and you should get right through. Then, in the strongest possible terms, tell Bush to go-all-the-way on this one.

Thank you, and thank you God.

White House comments: 202-456-1111

2:29 PM  
Blogger Kevin said...

I too hope that he overrides it so the Senate can override his veto.

11:36 PM  

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