Tuesday, March 01, 2005

You Can't Make This Stuff Up ...

Compare and contrast*:

"This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. Having said that, all options are on the table."

-- George W. Bush, 2/22/05

"Again, all options are on the table, and -- but one thing I will not allow is a nation such as Iraq to threaten our very future by developing weapons of mass destruction."

-- George W. Bush, 3/13/02

* With thanks from Center for American Progress


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps I am being dense but what is wrong with this? I am clearly missing the problem with this. Are you drawing attention to the clear soundbyte 'all options are on the table'? if so fair enough but its a trick all politians use.
Are you having a problem with Bush's use of the word ridiculous like others have? If so, I beg that you reread what he said in the first statement as there is nothing wrong with it.
Otherwise please explain as I am clearly having a slow day and cannot discern your point :)


7:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AhHa!! Sloppy reading on my part, no need to explain :)

However somewhat in defence of him (shudder) but all options are on the table is quite a common turn of phrase and so I don't think we should read any thing into it....yet


7:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the suggestion is that Bush said all options were on the table last time, when his critics would suggest the administration had always planned to attack Iraq.

The eerie similarity in the phrasing, I would imagine, will lead critics to think the administration has already decided to attack Iran.

10:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bush may already have a credibility problem the world. He does not help in making laughable and contradictory statements such as these.
I could be wrong here, but I assume other countries sense our resources are being greatly stressed in Iraq, severely limiting what we could in Iran or elsewhere.
Bush cleverly sneaks in a reference to Iraq to again attempt to validify the source of the drain, as well as the war that the majority of people in his own country in poll after poll oppose.
Hey, repeat it enough times people will accept it as truth.

10:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love this Bush quote. Bush is fully aware of the ground swell of young Iranians desperate for freedom from their oppressive government. The quote fuels that desire for freedom and sends the Mullahs running for their holes.

12:06 PM  
Anonymous joe said...

All I can say to the above blogger is: "How much Kool-Aid have you had today?"

12:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I now see I initially misread the Iraq quote as being from 2002, and not from recent weeks.

1:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You heard it here first.

There is a small window, and it will not be decided for some time to come, but GWB could go down as one of the most influential presidents in history (in a positive way) if the middle east is remade in a far more democratic fashion, terrorism is reasonably halted, and there is relative peace in Israel. It would be an amazing legacy.

I fully recognize that it could easily go the other way, and that even if events continue to unfold in a positive way (and please dont tell me recent events in the middle east are not promising), liberals will say GWB had nothing to do with it, but despite that, if things go this way, GWBs legacy will be written. In this regard, even if mistakes were made and you dont like some of the methods, the end will justify the means.

It could also solve the SS problems of the future as i would expect many baby boomer liberals to either die in shock/disgust or move out of the country.

How's that for some kool-aid?

3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one is saying that things might not in the end turn out okay in the Middle East. The point is that it could have been accomplished in other ways than the way Bush carried it out.
I sincerely doubt Bush would have allowed his preemptive war in Iraq if he knew it would result in $300 billion in expense, a black hole of a conflict, destroying much of the country's infrastructure and oil pipelines, and loss of more than 1,400 U.S. soldiers and tens of thousands of additional innocent Iraquis. Evidence shows he thought it would be an almost cakewalk with minimal loss of lives and expense to the U.S.
The issue isn't whether the end might ultimately justify the means, but whether the right means were taken to accomplish that end.
So far, it is highly debatable whether Bush took the right course.
A majority in the world appear to believe he did not, except for mostly hardened Republicans and those of the war hawk mentality.

6:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bush might turn out like Inspector Clouseau in those Pink Panther movies or Leslie Nielsen in those Naked Gun flicks. They always solved the case, despite all the bumbling and fumbling and leaving a massive trail of destruction behind them.

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i dont think he took the right course. all i am saying is his legacy may turn out very different than you would have believed. the inspector clousseau / leslie nielsson references are quite funny actually except that in some way, they imply he doesnt know what he is doing. i think he does - he just stumbles alot getting there.

as far as would he have done this had he knowd...simply put, if the evidence he had then showed there would be no WMDs he would not have gone in. why? no support for it and it would have been political suicide. no way he would have gone to war.

7:13 PM  

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