Monday, January 31, 2005

Two Weeks Ago, JABBS Agreed with Savage. Tonight? Not So Much

I knew if I listened long enough this would happen.

Two weeks ago, I actually agreed with conservative radio host Michael Savage ( -- we both felt President Bush's $50 million inaugurationalooza lacked "decorum," since the nation is at war.

Since I cringe at the thought of listening to either the "Mark Levin Comedy Hour" on WABC or the faux college radio screech-a-thon hosted by Sam Seder and Janeane Garofalo on Air America Radio, I will on occasion turn to Savage (a.k.a. Michael Weiner). But seven minutes seems to be my limit, before Savage says something either off-the-wall loopy or downright venomous.

Tonight, amid a reasonable discussion of the Iraq elections, Savage shifted gears and mentioned Sen. Hillary Clinton's (D-N.Y.) fainting episode today prior to a speech in Buffalo, N.Y.

Clinton blamed a stomach virus, but later was able to deliver a second speech at nearby Canisius College. The story made the news, although Savage couldn't see why.

Calling Clinton a "communist" who knew how to work the media to bring attention onto herself, Savage said Clinton was faking. "It's the oldest women's trick in the book," he said.

"Am I being too cynical?" he asked a minute later, wondering aloud if he was being too "distrustful."

Yes, Michael, you were.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Much in the same way i cannot stand janeane garafolo, i cannot stand savage either.

10:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed. Savage is a nut. Garofalo is probably the weakest link on Air America (although Mike Malloy is dreadful, too).

Is it a requirement that you have to be an extremist to be on the radio? Is there no such thing as "balanced" news analysis anymore? A place where spin is deciphered, without turning into ranting?

10:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen. That should be the question of the day. News has gone down the tubes in an attempt to create some form of reality entertainment. Ver few good discussion forums anymore and way too many Garafolos or Savages. These people dont realize they are detracting from their party's message. Pathetic.

9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am sick of these right-wing commentators that are offended by Hillary merely breathing. Why do they hate her so much? The New York Post reads like a weekly diary of Hillary hatred. It's really grown tiresome.
Right-wingers are setting her up as the next Democratic presidential candidate only so they can indulge themselves in mean-spirited cackle how she could never win.
No commentator would truely believe in their heart and mind that Hillary "faked" getting sick only to draw attention to her self. Such B.S. comes from that inner Hillary hatred, and a desire to stick a knife in her even when she draws even a bit of reasonable attention for an illness.

9:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree (although I do not like Hillary).

Kind of reminds me of the ridiculous Bush hating obsession on the left.

and the beat goes on.....

10:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a fairly ardent conservative, and I have long since quit listening to Mr. Savage. He is a boob. His diatribe about Sen. Clinton last night was completely over the top and uncalled for. It is not so difficult to call something wrong when it is wrong, and Savage was very wrong. Though I could not disagree more with Sen. Clinton on a plethora of issues, I, nor any conservatives that I know, do not wish bad things upon her, except in the voting booth.

11:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The difference between those who dislike Bush and those who dislike Hillary? The dislike of Bush is based on things he actually said.

On this blog and others are lengthy discussions of things Bush said and how they varied from things he did. Such as the 23 different rationales for why we went to war in Iraq. Or the various misinformation about Social Security. Or Bush's campaign comments about how Kerry's health care plan would create rationing -- a charge he knew to be untrue -- or how Kerry's Iraq plan was to "cut and run" -- a charge he knew to be untrue. These are fact-based arguments. You may disagree with the opinion, but you can't deny the original quote or ignore obvious examples of flip-flopping.

The vitriol against Hillary can be dated to the Arkansas Project, which was created in 1992 and funded by billionaire right-winger Richard Mellon Scaife. The goal of the project was to destroy the Clintons. It paid for magazine articles and books on Bill's "bimbo eruptions," massive investigations into whether Bill had committed rape or fathered illegitimate children, whether Hillary had an affair with Vince Foster, whether Hillary was a lesbian, whether the Clintons were involved in the "murder" or Vince Foster or the "murder" of Ron Brown, whether Bill ran drugs from Nicaragua through the Mena air base in Arkansas, and whether Bill had a cocaine problem. And of course, to reinvestigate the Whitewater land deal, which had been investigated on the state level and then later on the federal level, without any evidence of fraud by the Clintons.

Independent investigations into all of these stories -- in truth, fables and conservative-driven myths -- proved false. In spite of books by the like of Gary Aldrich and G. Gordon Liddy, and in spite of motivated writers like John Fund and Robert Novak, the only thing to come of the Arkansas Project was Monica Lewinsky, and that relationship was indirect at best.

I would suggest anyone interested in learning more about the right's pursuit of Hillary read "Blinded by the Right," by David Brock, the former "right-wing hit man" who stopped drinking the Kool-Aid after writing a book about Hillary in 1996.

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the conservative above talking about only wishing Hillary ill in the voting booth, I couldn't agree more.

I consider myself a mainstream Democrat. I'm not a big Michael Moore fan, although I think parts of Farenheit 9/11 are right on the money. I thought Bill Clinton was a very good president (better than either Bush).

But I've never liked Hillary. I got upset with her after she refused to walk out or denounce the anti-Israel diatribe by the wife of King Hussein. And I thought that if she wanted to be a senator, she should have tried to represent Arkansas, or her home state of Illinois, rather than czrpetbagging to New York. I think she's basically an opportunist, and unlike her husband, isn't savvy enough to not be transparent. I would never vote for her, especially if she runs for president. I think a lot of Democrats feel the same.

12:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The slew of comments regarding the "Savage Nation" lead to only one conclusion: Whether you like it or hate it, Right Wing radio succeeds because it is inherently more entertaining than anything the boring Left is putting over the airwaves.

12:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Fonzie used to say on "Happy Days", "I'll pretend I didn't hear that (above) comment.:

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's bull.

In NY (and I guess about 45 markets nationwide) you can listen to Air America. Ed Schultz's liberal show is on about 50 radio stations nationwide.

As has been said several times here and on other blogs, there are 1,300-plus stations airing conservative talk radio. Travel through vast parts of the country and you can't find Janeane Garofalo. You can find multiple channels airing Rush, Rush wannabes, Christian (and conservative politically) talk, etc.

The nation is drowning in a sea of it. Why? Because it's inexpensive to air, and the name recognition of Rush and Sean Hannity and Michael Savage should guarantee some ratings, vs. Bob and Sue live from East Nowheresville.

For my money, "Morning Sedition" on Air America is very entertaining. Unfiltered and The Al Franken Show are not as funny, but certainly worthwhile. Randi Rhodes is the left-wing Rush or Sean, which is why I don't listen to her. Janeane Garofalo is painful to listen to. Almost as bad as Mark Levin.

12:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the blogger who is a mainstream democrat. I agree completely with what you say. I have never said that before about any comments here. Please write here often as there arent enough centrist voices heard here or anywhere, for that matter.

To the blogger immediately above, your assmessment of air america is pretty good. i think the red staters should count themselves lucky garafolo isnt on. she is absolutely painful and often has no clue what she is talking about. She doesnt even sound like she believes what she is saying.

4:15 PM  
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